2018 R&T Performance Car of the Year

[Serpent]

I doubt it. A stock 720s will embarrass a GT1000 Ford GT

McLaren 720S vs Ford GT Twin Turbo Heffner GT1000

It’s a joke, terminator guys get real defensive about their cars around here. They drive a legend.

You're right. Does Ford not exist any more?!?
No GT350R car? Unless it couldn't hang with/not worthy to be with those other cars?

Lol, that guy is living under a rock, ford doesn’t need to rely on a v8 supercharged car to be a global force. They do it with a portfolio different cars. The only car I’d admit isn’t on their list is a quick grand touring sedan.

 

[ON D BIT]

You're right. Does Ford not exist any more?!?
No GT350R car? Unless it couldn't hang with/not worthy to be with those other cars?

It’s testing the new cars out this year not cars that have been around.
The 2le running basically the same lap time as the gt3 is impressive. Who was driving, pro driver? I’m surprised the 720 was not fastest lap.

 

[DaleM]

This is on my short list of old guy car in that article.

Alfa Romeo’s unashamedly operatic Giulia Quadrifoglio.

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[CobraBob]

Looks like the 2017 Ford GT was absent from the PCOTY competition.

Apparently the Civic mugged the Ford GT and snuck in. LOL.

Yeah, a number of cars are visibly missing!

 

[Pribilof]

It’s a joke, terminator guys get real defensive about their cars around here. They drive a legend.



Lol, that guy is living under a rock, ford doesn’t need to rely on a v8 supercharged car to be a global force. They do it with a portfolio different cars. The only car I’d admit isn’t on their list is a quick grand touring sedan.

The second favorite car of the entire review was the Camaro. It placed behind a car costing nearly four times as much. Ford wasn't even included in this test. Did you want them to include the Ford Flex? Give me a break. This is a performance car shootout and Ford was not even bothered to be invited.

New generation of horsepower wars and Ford isn't even trying to compete. IF we get an S550 GT500 it better bring the pain. It's already 4 years late to the party.

 

[SVT-BansheeMan]

I doubt it. A stock 720s will embarrass a GT1000 Ford GT

McLaren 720S vs Ford GT Twin Turbo Heffner GT1000

 

[Serpent]

Holy smokes!!!
Are you telling me that a stock 720S will beat a TT Ford GT?!?! Wow.
That dude Street Speed 717 bought a 720S the other day. Awesome looking color. In my personal opinion, I think they're ugly as ****. But, they are super fast, I'll give it that.

SS717 bought a 570s. The 570s is quick, but the 720s is faster, it replaces the 675. 570 is the baby mc

The second favorite car of the entire review was the Camaro. It placed behind a car costing nearly four times as much. Ford wasn't even included in this test. Did you want them to include the Ford Flex? Give me a break. This is a performance car shootout and Ford was not even bothered to be invited.

New generation of horsepower wars and Ford isn't even trying to compete. IF we get an S550 GT500 it better bring the pain. It's already 4 years late to the party.

was Ferrari invited? All they make are performance cars.

 

[svtfocus2cobra]

The second favorite car of the entire review was the Camaro. It placed behind a car costing nearly four times as much. Ford wasn't even included in this test. Did you want them to include the Ford Flex? Give me a break. This is a performance car shootout and Ford was not even bothered to be invited.

New generation of horsepower wars and Ford isn't even trying to compete. IF we get an S550 GT500 it better bring the pain. It's already 4 years late to the party.

There is something a little more important to the brands than performance and that is making money, and Ford is making plenty of that while not being in this best drivers car competition. Do you think they are bothered by it?

Really, who cares? Do you care because you cant bench race?

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[tones_RS3]

SS717 bought a 570s. The 570s is quick, but the 720s is faster, it replaces the 675. 570 is the baby mc

My fault, I stand corrected. Thank you.
I wonder why Ferrari wasn't invited.

 

[Pribilof]

There is something a little more important to the brands than performance and that is making money, and Ford is making plenty of that while not being in this best drivers car competition. Do you think they are bothered by it?

Really, who cares? Do you care because you cant bench race?

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Why do you care how much money Ford makes versus the fun cars it makes / doesn't make? This is a car forum not an investment forum.

My fault, I stand corrected. Thank you.
I wonder why Ferrari wasn't invited.

Ferrari probably turned it down if they were invited. Ferrari doesn't necessarily want to be measured against other cars, only themselves.

edit: https://jalopnik.com/ferrari-refuses-video-track-test-of-458-speciale-vs-mc-1602578996

 

[svtfocus2cobra]

Why do you care how much money Ford makes versus the fun cars it makes / doesn't make? This is a car forum not an investment forum.



Ferrari probably turned it down if they were invited. Ferrari doesn't necessarily want to be measured against other cars, only themselves.

edit: https://jalopnik.com/ferrari-refuses-video-track-test-of-458-speciale-vs-mc-1602578996

Because the more money they make, the more performance oriented cars they are capable of making? I dont know, seems pretty logical. Do you really think they can afford to only develop performance cars for their customers? We wouldn't have the performance line up they have now (and growing) if Ford had not returned to profitability.

Just because you do not understand the correlation and are impatient does not mean they are doing something wrong. It's like you think they can snap their fingers and have a product to match the ZL1 next day. How do you think development processes work?

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[Pribilof]

They've had the same amount of time as Chevy...

 

[svtfocus2cobra]

They've had the same amount of time as Chevy...

How many performance cars does Chevy have that is developed under Chevy's actual performance division? They have the Corvette and the Camaro. Now how many does Ford have under Ford Performance? FGT, Mustang, F150, and Focus are the major development projects. Keep in mind that the FGT is a massive project that probably cost more than the rest combined. Chevy puts all of their eggs in the Corvette and Camaro baskets and that is fine because you get two badass cars. Ford spreads it around more to appeal to more markets and buyers and it has been a complete success. All of their performance vehicles sell at premium prices and hold their values while the same cannot often be said about the Camaro especially.

If you get a chance go to SEMA some day and take note of Ford's areas in the show. Ford's outside venue was easily 5 times the size of GM's and everyone else's and they had probably 20 times as many people visiting it, and that is not an exaggeration. They are a powerhouse in the performance market whether you agree with that or not. They're products and marketing are attracting buyers and enthusiasts from all over, especially with what they are doing with Formula D and Ken Block.

 

[ON D BIT]

The second favorite car of the entire review was the Camaro. It placed behind a car costing nearly four times as much. Ford wasn't even included in this test. Did you want them to include the Ford Flex? Give me a break. This is a performance car shootout and Ford was not even bothered to be invited.

New generation of horsepower wars and Ford isn't even trying to compete. IF we get an S550 GT500 it better bring the pain. It's already 4 years late to the party.

Maybe you meant 5 years late?
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a5850/2013-road-and-track-performance-car-of-the-year/
Or maybe just 2?
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a27194/road-track-2016-performance-car-of-the-year/

 

[08mojo]

I'm surprised the Fiesta ST wasn't in the lineup.

 

[ON D BIT]

In other news MT and Pobst have tested the NFGT at willow springs. The 720s ran a week prior running a 1.21.7. That is 2.5 secs faster than he drove the 675LT. Crazy!

 

[Never_Enough]

Love me some McLaren. I am still trying to understand why the TT-RS & Alfa cost what they do. Smh

 

[Never_Enough]

Not only top 4... Two editors voted the ZL1 first.

And they had this to say



And meanwhile, What the heck if the blue oval doing?

I still want a 6g ZL1 in orange. Not the 1LE just because it would be a street car for me.

 

[Serpent]

In other news MT and Pobst have tested the NFGT at willow springs. The 720s ran a week prior running a 1.21.7. That is 2.5 secs faster than he drove the 675LT. Crazy!

Maybe they are doing a head 2 head, 2017 Ford GT vs 2017 McLaren 720s.
Tall order for the Ford GT.

 

[ZYBORG]

I doubt it. A stock 720s will embarrass a GT1000 Ford GT

McLaren 720S vs Ford GT Twin Turbo Heffner GT1000

Holy ass whoopin batman!

Holy smokes!!!
Are you telling me that a stock 720S will beat a TT Ford GT?!?! Wow.
That dude Street Speed 717 bought a 720S the other day. Awesome looking color. In my personal opinion, I think they're ugly as ****. But, they are super fast, I'll give it that.

With you 100%

The 2le running basically the same lap time as the gt3 is impressive. Who was driving, pro driver? I’m surprised the 720 was not fastest lap.

ON D, are you feeling alright?? Do you have a fever???