350 Lawsuit
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Yes, but they're heavier.
Look, I bought mine as a street "toy" for incredible tactile feedback and to do the occasional trackday if I felt like it. I wasn't looking for a track rat, but I was looking for a road-course tuned car that with minimal preparation could go to the track...like I have done with motorcycles off and on for 15 years now. For MY2016, Ford obviously upset some of its buyers, and they made a change due to it. I have multiple emails with FP about this and they were obviously getting tons of customers going to them about it.
This lawsuit should not be a surprise.
Hey boy!
Ya know, I was trying to give the benefit of doubt. Now, not so much.
Any other members here with limp mode issues besides your junk?
It's not a "cooler". It's a pallet load of stuff, including a transmission. MY2016 Base and Tech do not have the gerotor pump inside the trans you need to circulate the fluid.
You got me turned around... lol
My junk doesnt go into limp mode... I have a lowly 14' 500...
But it cost the same as the track pack option. Which is not bad.
I'm a fun guy according to some. Lol
Which is for sale. What's next?
It's for sale? I thought he had a z28... I'm way lost.
Well, you also get Recaros for that $3100, and some aero bits and other tweaks. I'd paid for the Tech seats with that option tick so it's not same-same.
It was cheaper than I expected...after finding out I had to change the F'in transmission if I wanted the "proper" system. A heck of a lot more than I expected after I'd done tons of research and decided I wanted a Tech though; I expected a $1000 kit with a fun/easy afternoon install.
oh are you guys throwing pie in my face? I hope it's coconut cream.
I wager they win. The "minimum" performance of a Shelby gt350 for ANY owner should not be an overheating limp mode condition after 10-15 minutes of full use. Cooling should be adequate for ALL and upgraded from that point on.
I wager they win. The "minimum" performance of a Shelby gt350 for ANY owner should not be an overheating limp mode condition after 10-15 minutes of full use. Cooling should be adequate for ALL and upgraded from that point on.
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No TSB.
The Base nor the Tech Pack WERE EVER ADVERTISED AS BEING TRACK CAPABLE.
Don't hold your breath.
The benefit of the doubt should be long over.
I would've guessed you'd hope for cream on your face.
It's actually better when I login so I don't have to read your diatribe.
13COBRA said:
That's just not true at all. I got a book that says "Track Tips" with my Tech. Again. With my Tech. A book telling me how to best use my Tech at the track.
"ON THE TRACK
With oil coolers for the engine, transmission and differential, the GT350 Track Package and the GT350 R models are best equipped for extended on-track lapping at speed. The standard GT350 and GT350 Electronic Package certainly can be used on race tracks, but longer runs at high RPMs should be avoided."
It was also said in multiple places Ford would be offering a cooler kit for your Tech to bring it up to the level for "long runs at high RPMs".
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So you're suing ford for punitive damages?
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I had to wait 3 years to get an airbag that wouldn't rip my face off if deployed, in a much faster GT500, that doesn't handle or stop as well as a 350. But I didn't cry about it and hire an attorney....
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I guess I haven't seen any clear definition of what "track capable" means. Your definition of "one session" seems arbitrary. Let's assume you're right and that Ford marketing statements about "track ready" apply to all GT350 models (I think they clearly don't, but that's beside the point right now). Now, "track ready" could reasonably be believed to mean "will handle well and be fast on a track." Given the marketing as "most track-focused," you could even assume it means "be faster than any other stock Mustang around a track."
To my mind, that means the car should be able to do 3 laps: one out lap, one flyer--faster than any other stock Mustang--and one cool-down. That is a session, at least that's what we call a session when qualifying for races. I'd love to see some examples of Tech cars not handling a single hot lap.
I know people probably get sick of my BMW analogies here, but people who were used to BMWs being all-day track floggable (is that a word?) for decades got a rude awakening when the twin-turbo N54 cars came out (335i, 135i). Those early 335i would go into limp mode within 2 laps with a fast driver at the wheel. Know what those guys did?
They bought oil coolers.
Let's put it this way. The higher revving V8 in the GT350 has the potential to hit temperatures before the lower revving V8 in the GT.
I've heard all the arguments from each and every side for some time now. My opinion has wavered back and forth. Personally, I figured it was easier to buy a Track pack and add the 8" screen/Navigation than to buy a Tech/base and try to add the coolers, etc. So I did just that (thank God!).
The bottom line is this - some in a position of authority with respect to the GT350 program felt that a model(s) without transmission or differential coolers had merit. They tried to parse content into categories that they felt gave the best choices (that included a bare bone/low buck option) and the decision to eliminate certain coolers was made in error. Ford had all the data but somehow felt they could segregate the buying demographic such that they could make everyone happy. In the end, they forgot the most important aspect...the GT350 should always outperform a GT at the track and that includes cooling performance. GM engineers are laughing at the situation Ford has put itself in (crikey, what are they using in the 1LE's....10 or 11 coolers?).
Good post. The decision for the tech pack was a luxury 350 that could turn and be comfortable on the street(mag suspension) without the added cost of the coolers which is $3k. I sure the bean counters said who would pay an extra $3k if they weren't going to track it?
And they were right. You involved in the lawsuit purchased the tech and did not want to pay the extra $3k for the coolers.
You simply want the coolers leather and stereo for $3k less than those that are purchasing the 17's for.
And they were right. You involved in the lawsuit purchased the tech and did not want to pay the extra $3k for the coolers.
You simply want the coolers leather and stereo for $3k less than those that are purchasing the 17's for.
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