Forward that if you find it. Obviously depends on the track but 2 sec is a shitload. At VIR that is the dif b/w an FGT and a Zl1 1LE.
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Forward that if you find it. Obviously depends on the track but 2 sec is a shitload. At VIR that is the dif b/w an FGT and a Zl1 1LE.
Not correct, ZL1 does kick the 350Rs teeth in.... and then pisses on it for good measure. Lap times don’t lie. ZL1 destroys an R in its own home (road course), let’s not even mention the strip or street.
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^ so the 2017-2019 gt350r cars are slower than the 2016?
I do know that in the grand scheme of things, none of this postulating about track times mean shit.
Which car is more comfortable, better looking, sounds good, and fills your needs. An R is cool but I wouldn't daily one. ZL1 is arguably the better of the two to daily and track rat.
Which car is more comfortable, better looking, sounds good, and fills your needs. An R is cool but I wouldn't daily one. ZL1 is arguably the better of the two to daily and track rat.
Interesting that you picked the longest track you could find. So, a car with way more HP/TRQ beats another car on a track that favors high HP/TRQ. Imagine that. And we're talking ZL1, not ZL1 1LE. Considering the power delta, a 1.7 second lead on a track like VIR isn't really much to brag about. How about look at the Laguna Seca times. The ZL1 is less than a second ahead and the 1LE is a whopping 1.81 seconds ahead. Or look at the Willow Springs times. So, no, the ZL1 does not "kick the shit out of the GT350R."
A ZL1 1LE is a ZL1. Both ZL1 trims bear the R. 1LE spec’ed ZL1 does it disgustingly. I’m talking night of heavy drinking, beer before liquor, to include engorging with expired Taco Bell diarrhea on the R.
It’s not even pretty.
R is a badass car, no doubt, but the ZL1 makes it it’s bitch.
They are the same car, my man. No change in performance.
Cant blame people for having their priorities in order. Or they can get the camaro/mustang and be living at home. LOL
If i was living at home, I would be driving a shitbox and saving up to GTFO.
Thats funny, im a car guy and cannot even name 1 cadillac car besides the CTS-V, or is it called something else now?
I was literally just looking at these as some guy on another forum thinks there is no chance a ZL1 1LE will be slower than the new gt500. A 350R would get stomped by a ZL1 whether or not it is 1LE. Dif is 5 sec at VIR and 15 sec at the ring. Only place that it is close is Laguna but it is still ~2 sec.
It’s gonna be close, man. But I do expect the ZL1 1LE to fall to the new 500.
500 will become the new benchmark for athletic muscle.
Sorry. Ever track both an SS1LE and a GT350/R? I have.
The ZL1 punches a bit higher than the Ford's do. The ZL1 1LE even more so. The GT350/R have an advantage over the SS but it is much closer to the Ford variants. Track them and you'll see.
My blood runs as blue as anyone's but I can't deny the deficiency in the GT350/R. Fun to rev on the top end at the track but the bottom line is that the chassis is begging for more power. Ford hasn't seen fit to do that in what, 5 years now? Thankfully there is another model to cover that void.
The ZL1 punches a bit higher than the Ford's do. The ZL1 1LE even more so. The GT350/R have an advantage over the SS but it is much closer to the Ford variants. Track them and you'll see.
My blood runs as blue as anyone's but I can't deny the deficiency in the GT350/R. Fun to rev on the top end at the track but the bottom line is that the chassis is begging for more power. Ford hasn't seen fit to do that in what, 5 years now? Thankfully there is another model to cover that void.
There's no reason why current and future generations have to pay higher tuition. The money is going somewhere, and banks are reaping the rewards of lifetime interest.
People want Millennials to have common knowledge, but if they learn at higher education, they are not financially responsible.
Again, contradictory. Blame Millennials for a discontinuation of a car, but irresponsible if they buy a car.
The new Camaros are definitely a Baby Boomer target. Chevy probably can't figure out why the Boomers are not buying them. I see more Millennials driving them.
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