Aluminum block shortage or?

[brian@p+]

I ordered an engine and upgraded to the aluminum block and have been tol they are on back order from F ord. Does anybody know where there might be one?

or work at ford racing and know when they will have some more?

 

[ShelbyGT5HUN]

Who did you order it from? A Ford dealer or what? If you are a 2010, you shoulda stayed iron.

 

[JimIII@jdm]

5.4L or 5.8L? Ford stopped producing the 5.4L AL block some time ago they are very scarce. I may be able to help in getting one, call us at 732-780-0770.

JimIII

 

[brian@p+]

It was a a sleeved 5.8 from mmr. But was 4 months ago. They say ford is still making them

 

[scotsam]

If you are a 2010, you shoulda stayed iron.

Why is that?

 

[JimIII@jdm]

The 5.8L is still being made, hard to get but still available by order. The 5.4L is discontinued, Ford Racing hasn't had them in over a year. Some Ford Dealerships have them but in limited quantity.

 

[NightRide]

It would be easier to rebuild the iron block if she blows again, that being said I still pick aluminum but I'm slightly biased.

Why is that?

 

[MattR]

Why did I think an OEM had to offer parts for at least 10 years? I guess if mine blows I can start a thread like the guy with the 5.0 shelby. LSX in my GT500 lol.

 

[JimIII@jdm]

Why did I think an OEM had to offer parts for at least 10 years? I guess if mine blows I can start a thread like the guy with the 5.0 shelby. LSX in my GT500 lol.

They don't any more, its like 2 years

 

[MattR]

So if a guy has an extended warranty and pops an engine he gets a 5.8? A late 2012 could have been sold in 2013 giving it coverage until 2018 or so. It's to bad the aftermarket doesn't do blocks for Ford engines.

 

[brian98svtsnake]

Check the market section, I recently saw a guy or shop with 4 of them I believe

 

[JimIII@jdm]

Check the market section, I recently saw a guy or shop with 4 of them I believe

Yes people have them, we have a few as well. Stock pile!!!

 

[JimIII@jdm]

So if a guy has an extended warranty and pops an engine he gets a 5.8? A late 2012 could have been sold in 2013 giving it coverage until 2018 or so. It's to bad the aftermarket doesn't do blocks for Ford engines.

No, If you damage your engine under warranty Ford will replace your shortblock or longblock. Which Ford does have Shortblocks in stock and can re manufacture shortblocks as well. It is just the bare block that is no longer being produced.

 

[19COBRA93]

5.4L or 5.8L? Ford stopped producing the 5.4L AL block some time ago they are very scarce.

JimIII

The bare 5.4L blocks are still being produced, and can be ordered (I just checked in my Ford system a few minutes ago). They are on back order though, so it will take some time (just like the 5.8's), but they have not been discontinued.

Why did I think an OEM had to offer parts for at least 10 years?

That's a myth. Ford only has to keep parts available through the original warranty period.

So if a guy has an extended warranty and pops an engine he gets a 5.8? A late 2012 could have been sold in 2013 giving it coverage until 2018 or so. It's to bad the aftermarket doesn't do blocks for Ford engines.

If your vehicle is still under a Ford warranty, and the particular part you need has been discontinued, they will find you one. As mentioned, Ford will never replace just a bare block under warranty. It would be an assembly, which is readily available.

 

[enormous]

I work at Fords WEP and we are still machining 5.4L blocks today along with the 6.8 at our plant.
F150 and GT500 5.4's rolled out of block machining at the same time, no difference during the 07-10 run.

5.4 production will be phased out soon.

 

[brian@p+]

So how much for a bare block or sleeved version. ?

 

[Tob]

I work at Fords WEP and we are still machining 5.4L blocks today along with the 6.8 at our plant.
F150 and GT500 5.4's rolled out of block machining at the same time, no difference during the 07-10 run.

5.4 production will be phased out soon.

I take it that the 5.4 blocks are done in short runs every so often? Can you comment on how many may be done at a given time?

 

[ShelbyGT5HUN]

Why is that?

Because its stronger than aluminum. You won't regret it.

 

[JimIII@jdm]

Because its stronger than aluminum. You won't regret it.

It's also heavier, doesn't dissipate heat as well, and a connecting rod will go through the side of a iron block just as easily as an aluminum. Your not going to crack or stress either AL or Steel 5.4L based on HP alone. You would have to detonate either engine to cause catastrophic failure to the block. If you can afford it, I would go aluminum every time.

 

[SID297]

Dean Martin has the last of the FRPP stock. He listed them in The Market:

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?1026643-5-8L-Blocks-For-Sale