I remember a post a while back but the search doesn't seem to work. Anyone using one and do you feel it helps with your launches and 60'?
Anyone using the Swarr Bar?
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I am using one. Does it help with reducing 60' times? I don't think there's any measurable improvement. I would think control arms and panhard bars have more of an impact. I added mine because I actually spun an axle tube (while drag racing) with my stock rear end. When I got a new rear end I installed a Swarr bar to help prevent that type of failure from re-occurring. If you look closely to the attached pic you can see the Swarr bar. I had it welded on for good measure.
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American muscle sells them. Thanks JB, I'm thinking its a small part of the bigger picture and if it helps prevent axle tube damage it may be worth it.
American Muscle says they won't work with LCA Relo Brackets. Seems to me there's more to be gained with relo brackets.
Steve
Steve
Calling on 1320 junkie... Don't you have LCA relos with your swarr bar?
I remember Jay had one, not sure about the details. I have relocation brackets.
I have one with relocation brackets. No problem. I don't recall an issue at least one a grinder couldn't solve.
Thanks, good to know. I'm talking to my suspension guy tomorrow. I'm leaning towards an anti roll bar for starters and see what he says about the Swarr bar
I agree that it is probably more effective....but easier welding ? Welding done right has You removing the rear axle ,
draining the lube , removing the gears , not a beginner weld job with cast hub and steel tubes , re-assembly , etc.
It also requires the center section heated, welded and slowly cooled, also some kind of jig to keep it all strait while welding and cooling. To be done correctly that is. I thought about it but I got no time! So swarr bar it is.
I did some research on the swarr bar and was planning on adding one. Somewhere along the line I read a thread that recommended the CHE brace over the swarr bar. Not knocking the swarr but it seems CHE's brace is a slightly better design.
https://www.cheperformance.com/collections/2011-2014-chassis-and-suspension-bracing/products/che9l
https://www.cheperformance.com/collections/2011-2014-chassis-and-suspension-bracing/products/che9l
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I'm most likely getting my axle tubes welded. He does it while on the car and has never had a problem but warned me there's a small chance of it bending because like earlier mentioned the proper way is off the car and in a vice of some sorts.
I personally would not have it done on the car. I do not race and do not need to have it done but I know welding dissimilar metal can cause all kinds of problems if not done exactly right. So you take your chances doing it that way. I do not think he would guarantee something like that.
Your right, he wouldn't guarantee it, what he told me is he's done it quite a few times and never had a problem.
I wouldn't get mine welded, unless it was done by the book. If you develop a micro crack it could expand over time, you could end up with the tube snapping off. Wouldn't want that happening at speed, or at any time! If they were the same metal type, I'd take the chance with it on the car, but no way with it being dissimilar metals.
I have welded them on the car myself and not had any problems. It was also a much cheaper car (fox body), much lighter (2800lb), and far less power (450hp crank). I was tempted to break out the mig and weld this one but she's a fat pig with over 700 wheel horsepower and thought better of it. As far as the Che brace I think it is better for road racing but it doesn't look like it would be stronger torsionally plus it looks like a jungle gym under the car.
I appreciate the concern and understand the risk but I'm confident in this guys abilities and I had it done on my 98 cobra without issue.
I have the Swarr bar, and I know the owner/ designer of the bar. Eric is a great guy, and I run one of his bars in my car. Very inexpensive for the added piece of mind. Especially if you start going crazy on HP.:rolling:
Mark
Mark
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