Disagree. I'm an advocate of Pascal's wager. How can you go wrong with that?
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Seems like us that start life catholic have the most tormented paths to religion. That said, I'm confident that there is a higher power, and maybe god is the best way our minds in general can comprehend that reality, and maybe that is why Christ was given to mankind. The ten commandments are with out a doubt in my mind, the best set of rules to run a society that have ever been written, and even if you are atheist, drop the first 4 and the last 6 will do just fine. Of course, the big ten came way before Jesus, yet clearly were of one god and religious belief.
I understand your point, but you have to factor in faith. The Big Bang is only a theory that has not been proven. But, a lot of scientist believe in that theory, and some work tirelessly to prove it. They formed a hypothesis and try and logically explain it. They have a strong belief in it, but they don't really know.
Now take a believer, I'll use myself as an example: I believe there is a God, but I don't know. However, I have "faith" God is real which is a stronger emotion than the subjective or objective scientist who is trying to prove his theory.
Yeah we both have "theories", but I have a spiritual involvement in mine.
Those people are hypocrites, nothing more, and nothing less. These people are focused on religion and man made rules. They are worshipping belief over God.
Jesus dealt with the same people. The Pharisees were Jewish religious leaders that were nothing more than judgemental, pompous, arrogant snakes. In fact, Jesus called them such.
There are a lot of what I like to call Pharisee churches today.
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I dont consider myself an atheist but also cannot take religion seriously.
Ive gotten ridiculed before but, what about dinosaurs?? The fact that these beast owned the planet for millions of years before man showed up kinda pokes holes in the "God and 7 days" story.
Does any religion acknowledge that the universe existed before man?
Ive gotten ridiculed before but, what about dinosaurs?? The fact that these beast owned the planet for millions of years before man showed up kinda pokes holes in the "God and 7 days" story.
Does any religion acknowledge that the universe existed before man?
If your creator started it, what created him? Cause and effect goes both ways, right? Oh, wait.... He exists outside our understanding of space, time, etc., right? So, in other words, you don't hold your beliefs to the same standards you hold everyone else's to. How convenient.
Anyhow, as you pointed out, the big bang is a theory. And just because we don't have the answers today, doesn't mean we never will. Science has shown us amazing things just in my short lifetime. I can't imagine what we'll learn in the next 100 - 150 years. Meanwhile, scientists aren't threatening me with eternal hell if I don't believe what they tell me.
No, it's not. It never has been, and it never will be.
This is far from a train wreck. This is people wanting info, and placing their own hearts and thoughts on the line. How will anyone ever learn without questioning what they do not know?
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Ruling by fear? No, I don't want any part of a God that would punish you simply because you aren't sure, or even if you don't believe.
To say you believe, just to believe is not believing. That is being a lemming. You are doing more harm than good if you say you believe in God just because it might be the right thing to do. The reality is that you would not believe at all, you would still doubt everything.
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If you were standing in a burning building, and there was one person who said he knew the way out, and you elected to not follow him and thus perished, would you consider that punishment, or consequences?
But there is no penalty, dude. It's not fear. It's a safety valve. An insurance policy. You hope you don't need it but if you do it is there. You don't fear safety, do you? Just believe and go about your moral business. Maybe help someone out along the way....
I am looking forward to answering this one.
Did dinosaurs roam the earth before man, or did they coexist for a time?
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I think Revv said this above. I would argue that truly believing something (which is life changing in this example) and just saying you believe in something, is simply not sufficient.
That used to be my go-to question to shut Christians up, "Who created God"? What is the origin of God?
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Nice try. I like it. You got a laugh from me.Wait. Are you judging me?
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I'm as interested in the discussion as you are. I did prematurely predict it's untimely demise.
I look forward to writing a book tomorrow. Should be interesting.
Guys, behave and don't get this thread placed on lock down.
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Guys, behave and don't get this thread placed on lock down.
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Hopefully this will continue in a respectful manner.
I'm out boys. Cheers. Gotta snooze.
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