autoblog tests the zl1

[svtsupersnake]

here is the test auto blog did on the zl1. Slightly better than motor trends.

2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1

looks like the zl1 contrary to popular belief is better than the 12 shelby and is in zo6 territory being only .1 seconds slower to 60 and .2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile.

But i'm sure the 13 will change all that.

 

[Captain Beyond]

here is the test auto blog did on the zl1. Slightly better than motor trends.

2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1

looks like the zl1 contrary to popular belief is better than the 12 shelby and is in zo6 territory being only .1 seconds slower to 60 and .2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile.

But i'm sure the 13 will change all that.

I think the 0-60 in 3.9, 12 sec. flat 1/4 mile times and 184 top speed are GM's published #s. I haven't seen any tests that duplicate those #s yet. If you read the article, it states that they only managed mid 12s @ 114 mph.

 

[svtsupersnake]

I think the 0-60 in 3.9, 12 sec. flat 1/4 mile times and 184 top speed are GM's published #s. I haven't seen any tests that duplicate those #s yet. If you read the article, it states that they only managed mid 12s @ 114 mph.

motor trend got pretty much the same numbers just a .1 difference. They say here they got low 12s from crappy conditions but with good it will be 12.

 

[Captain Beyond]

motor trend got pretty much the same numbers just a .1 difference. They say here they got low 12s from crappy conditions but with good it will be 12.

Actually, the #s they published are mid 12s @ 114, but did say that it would run low 12s in better condtions. Low 12s is indeed impressive for a car that weighs 4120 lbs, but no so much the trap speed.

 

[Ry_Trapp0]

they recorded 114MPH trap? and the "official" numbers from GM was a 119MPH trap speed??? wow. i thought this car was a sure bet at 11.8-11.9, now it looks like only the best will be able to nudge into the 11s stock.

 

[Kewlv8]

Actually, the #s they published are mid 12s @ 114, but did say that it would run low 12s in better condtions. Low 12s is indeed impressive for a car that weighs 4120 lbs, but no so much the trap speed.

The trap speeds are telling the story. Ranging from 114 to 119 mph. Right about where you would expect with identical power-to-weight ratio as the 2012 GT500. Needs more power and less weight to be in the rarefied air at the 120+Mph club. The 120's are the new Teens.....:thumbsup:

 

[ON D BIT]

they recorded 114MPH trap? and the "official" numbers from GM was a 119MPH trap speed??? wow. i thought this car was a sure bet at 11.8-11.9, now it looks like only the best will be able to nudge into the 11s stock.

Was this run at the infamous 4000ft track? That and media types behind the wheel one can expect low traps.

I have no doubt this will hit 119/120 in negative density and a great driver! Wait the 2011 gt500 already does this....:rockon:

 

[Fuerza]

Not bad, I wonder if the right driver 11.9 is possible?

 

[DBK]

looks like the zl1 contrary to popular belief ... is in zo6 territory being only .1 seconds slower to 60 and .2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile.

What are you reading? It says they went "mid 12's @ 114 mph". I'd be pretty bummed if I rolled up in a C6 Z06 and ran anywhere near that. I ran that in my stock C5 Z06 a decade ago.

What do you think the chances are GM asked them not to be specific about what they ran because they know it's shit? :rollseyes "Mid 12's" could mean 12.7 according to Autoblog, which at 114, wouldn't be that surprising. I don't think I've ever seen a review that goes out of it's way to quote manufacturer's claims and then minimizes their own instrumented results.

I'm pretty surprised the reviewers haven't really come close to the GM claims.

12.1@117
12.3@119
12.6@116
12.5-6(?)@114

 

[Devious_Snake]

What are you reading? It says they went "mid 12's @ 114 mph". I'd be pretty bummed if I rolled up in a C6 Z06 and ran anywhere near that. I ran that in my stock C5 Z06 a decade ago.

What do you think the chances are GM asked them not to be specific about what they ran because they know it's shit? :rollseyes "Mid 12's" could mean 12.7 according to Autoblog, which at 114, wouldn't be that surprising. I don't think I've ever seen a review that goes out of it's way to quote manufacturer's claims and then minimizes their own instrumented results.

I'm pretty surprised the reviewers haven't really come close to the GM claims.

12.1@117
12.3@119
12.6@116
12.5-6(?)@114

im shocked too, doesn't an SS camaro come close to that already in stock trim?

 

[Darth Racer]

The '11 & '12 GT500 are already running low 12s. Maybe the ZL1 crew should just be concerned with keeping up the current GT500 and not worry about the '13.

 

[Notre Dame]

119 mph is an 11.5 car with a sticky tire and Auto. More boost bigger blower...sounds like a 10 sec car too me with tweeks. Should be a fun battle the next few years to watch. It will only make both cars better and more exciting to buy.

 

[svtsupersnake]

What are you reading? It says they went "mid 12's @ 114 mph". I'd be pretty bummed if I rolled up in a C6 Z06 and ran anywhere near that. I ran that in my stock C5 Z06 a decade ago.

What do you think the chances are GM asked them not to be specific about what they ran because they know it's shit? :rollseyes "Mid 12's" could mean 12.7 according to Autoblog, which at 114, wouldn't be that surprising. I don't think I've ever seen a review that goes out of it's way to quote manufacturer's claims and then minimizes their own instrumented results.

I'm pretty surprised the reviewers haven't really come close to the GM claims.

12.1@117
12.3@119
12.6@116
12.5-6(?)@114

12.1 which is what motortrend got and thats .1 one from GMs claims. I dont see how that is not close? 2nd autoblog said they were in crap conditions but w/e lets accept that the zl1 with IRS the MR shocks and 580 hp and launch control cant stick somehow and runs 12.7. How then did it beat the boss in every aspect when the boss does it faster than 12.7 hmm?? The gt alone does the quarter mile time at 12.7. Are you trying to say then the zl1 is no better than the reglar gt?

 

[DBK]

I'm not saying anything other than the results are what the results are, and that is roughly equivalent to the the 2011 GT500. Throw out the outliers, so get rid of a 12.1 and 13.0 and you're left with 12.3, 12.6, 12.6. With launch control.

 

[svtsupersnake]

hmmm well 12.6 cant really make sense if its better than the boss especially by so much. Neither can saying its equivalent to the 12 since the boss was pretty much the exact same performance as the 12. I also highly doubt GM would make a car just as good as the 12 when the 12 was already out and they knew wat to beat. I think when normal people drive this car they will see exactly that its much better than a 12 gt500 better than a boss but not better than a 13. When the new zl1 comes out a year later most likely again it will beat the 13 shelby but by then ford came up with something better. But the car cant beat a boss by as much as it did and then be equal to a 12 shelby which is just as good as the boss.

 

[DBK]

My head hurts. :lol1:

 

[jshen]

For such a "sophisticated car"..the ZL1 sucks gas like it was free. 16/19 and has a gas guzzler tax....The new 2013 Shelby..is exempt from GG taxes.

 

[svtsupersnake]

For such a "sophisticated car"..the ZL1 sucks gas like it was free. 16/19 and has a gas guzzler tax....The new 2013 Shelby..is exempt from GG taxes.

the gear ration on the zl1 is 3.73 the shelby is 3.31. Thats why it uses more gas and the shelby doesnt. Thats also why the zl1 goes to just 185 and the shelby does 200. Turn the zl1 to 3.31 and it will probably be the same. Plus people who buy these cars dont give a damn about gas milage.

 

[jshen]

Gas

True- buyers won't care. but I like the idea Ford is doing more- with less. More hp- better mileage...

 

[Devious_Snake]

True- buyers won't care. but I like the idea Ford is doing more- with less. More hp- better mileage...

this!