Boost time. Let's hear some opinions.

[Massie02GT]

Alright guys, it's time for the 2v to get some boost. I had a deal worked out a few days ago on a Vortech V-2 S trim, long story short, I got my money back and am back on the hunt. I originally wanted to do a Kenne Bell, but I'm pretty sure I've changed my mind and narrowed it down to the centri route and these 3 systems.

My thoughts on them:

ProCharger - Huge bonus with being self-contained as far as oil goes, however, I've read on multiple forums that it's not "if" your ProCharger will leak but "WHEN" it's going to. Doesn't leave me optimistic, but not ruling it out as it's been only a few cases that I've read. I also just read that some are claiming the ProChargers make less hp at the same boost levels as the other 2. Anyone have input on that?

Vortech - The V3 is very appealing because of the self-contained oil (see a pattern here?), but I'm not opposed to getting a V-2 S or Si trim if I find a good enough deal. Currently there are multiple kits for sale over on Corral for decent prices. I'm talkin to a guy now that has a Si trim intercooled kit for sale for 1800, only missing the main bracket which I've priced out to be $170 from superchargersonline.

Paxton - I've heard that these are the most efficient of the centris and will make more power on 9-10psi than the others. How true it is I have no idea. I do know they're a huge head unit. I had a full intercooled kit and then sold it like an idiot a while back before installing it. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for that. The big downfall to this kit is that Paxton is no longer making the brackets from what I've seen. People are selling just the brackets for 5-600 bucks, and that is absolutely ridiculous. They're also hard to find kits so I would potentially have to wait longer to find one.

SO...thoughts? And no, I'm not going turbo so please don't even suggest it. This is not my daily driver so downtime for install isn't a problem and I'll be doing it myself in my garage. I'm still on all stock internals, so 400whp is my end goal here. Really don't have any plans on building an engine any time soon either, but having a blower that will allow for growth to maybe 5-600hp is ideal.

 

[KoBra_98]

For a street driven car on stock internals, why not a intercooled KB?. the instant power on tap at any RPM over 2500 is really nice.

 

[Massie02GT]

For a street driven car on stock internals, why not a intercooled KB?. the instant power on tap at any RPM over 2500 is really nice.

Mainly because all the KB kits I've found for sale are double the price of a centri kit, to be honest. I would love to throw a 2.1 on my car, but with them going for $3-4k for a kit I can piece together a very nice centri set up and still have cash left over. There's a 2.1 here locally, I'm just having a hard time justifying the cost of one. Also, and this is going to sound extremely lazy, but the install on a centri seems to be much simpler lol.

 

[Blkkbgt]

Get a tork tech kit and don't look back. While you'll end up running an eaton at first your blower options for increased power will be nearly limitless later.

 

[mustanginky]

Avoid p1 if you ever plan on more than 450 rwhp. Go with a d1 or vortech/Paxton. This coming from a p1 owner with a built motor.

 

[Massie02GT]

Get a tork tech kit and don't look back. While you'll end up running an eaton at first your blower options for increased power will be nearly limitless later.

Funny you should mention a Tork Tech. I literally just sold one about 3 months ago. Tore my motor apart and sat the adapter manifold on there and decided it wasn't what I wanted so I sold it off. There's a lot about Tork Tech that I don't like. It's "specially" made for our cars and to fit an Eaton off a Cobra, yet you have to dremel out the mounting holes on the Eaton to get it to line up right. If it's made for that purpose, then why do I have to modify it? Sure, it's little minor things like that, but it all pushed me away from running that kit. I know there are people on this board running them with great success, and I'm sure I would have had the same outcome, but I decided against it. There were also people having problems with the intercoolers leaking in them, etc etc. Like I said, small stuff, but enough to push me away.

Avoid p1 if you ever plan on more than 450 rwhp. Go with a d1 or vortech/Paxton. This coming from a p1 owner with a built motor.

I had no idea the P1's were limited like that, so thanks for the info! Glad to hear it coming from someone with first hand experience.

 

[Blkkbgt]

The issues you speak of with the tork tech kit are nothing compared to what you have to do to the KB 2.1 to make good power without sky hi IATs. Trust me I am going through this process right now.

With that said it sounds like you're stuck on the centri route which is fine. If you go with a FMIC get one from treadstone as apposite to CX Racing as they flow much better.

 

[Massie02GT]

The issues you speak of with the tork tech kit are nothing compared to what you have to do to the KB 2.1 to make good power without sky hi IATs. Trust me I am going through this process right now.

With that said it sounds like you're stuck on the centri route which is fine. If you go with a FMIC get one from treadstone as apposite to CX Racing as they flow much better.

Yea I've read a lot about KB's and their restrictions with inlets which is one reason I'm leaning away from them. At this point I'm pretty sure that the centri route is the way I'll go. Thanks for the info on the Intercoolers. I'll definitely look into that.

 

[jymboslice]

All you need is this:

Procharger Stage 2 kit with the upgraded intercooler and a D1sc headunit and possibly a larger blow off valve. I would also get a slot style MAF too.

 

[Braker85]

An Eaton bolt pattern is limitless......

 

[Massie02GT]

All you need is this:

Procharger Stage 2 kit with the upgraded intercooler and a D1sc headunit and possibly a larger blow off valve. I would also get a slot style MAF too.

Any particular reason you suggest the ProCharger D1 over the Vortech V3?

 

[KLeech]

You know my opinion. With as indecisive as you are, I'm going to start calling you a woman! oke:

 

[Massie02GT]

You know my opinion. With as indecisive as you are, I'm going to start calling you a woman! oke:

LOL. When it comes to this, for whatever reason, I am extremely indecisive. I got ahold of a guy with a Vortech V3 last night, so I'll be texting him today to get more details about everything. I think right now I'm leaning toward the V3 and either P1SC or D1SC. I really like the self contained feature.

 

[DHG1078]

I'm going to go with a procharger D1SC kit in the future. I like procharger's intercooler setup better than Vortechs aftercooler (?) setup. It's basically an ice box that sits around the intake.

 

[jwt390030]

Build a good turbo kit. You can't go wrong.

 

[spike_africa]

All you need is this:

Procharger Stage 2 kit with the upgraded intercooler and a D1sc headunit and possibly a larger blow off valve. I would also get a slot style MAF too.

You can take a 100% stock 99-04 GT and add the Procharger kit with the 12psi pulley and 3 core intercooler and make enough power to bend a rod. I personally have installed and helped tune a few of these kits on various cars. Procharger makes a nice blower that makes power. It gets my vote hands down. Install is easy too, and tuning isn't hard for more tuners. Turbo is great and all. But a stock motor, Procharger, off road mid pipe, and catback and tune. Boom 400-450rwhp depending on weather and tune.

 

[Massie02GT]

Build a good turbo kit. You can't go wrong.

As I said in my original post: "I'm not going turbo so please don't even suggest it."

You can take a 100% stock 99-04 GT and add the Procharger kit with the 12psi pulley and 3 core intercooler and make enough power to bend a rod. I personally have installed and helped tune a few of these kits on various cars. Procharger makes a nice blower that makes power. It gets my vote hands down. Install is easy too, and tuning isn't hard for more tuners. Turbo is great and all. But a stock motor, Procharger, off road mid pipe, and catback and tune. Boom 400-450rwhp depending on weather and tune.

Is there any particular reason that you suggest the ProCharger over the Vortech v3 Si, or is just personal preference?

 

[DHG1078]

As I said in my original post: "I'm not going turbo so please don't even suggest it."



Is there any particular reason that you suggest the ProCharger over the Vortech v3 Si, or is just personal preference?

Most likely the intercooler setup. Either one is a great choice though.

 

[Gravik]

Turbo > Centri

 

[DHG1078]

Turbo > Centri

Turbo isn't smog legal.