Can someone school me on the Mustang V8s

[thomas91169]

Every engine ever built has more torque than HP until 5252 RPMs.

 

[619Cobra04]

Pull trigger bro, get one!

 

[Silver2003Cobra]

-Heads
-Valves
-SOHC vs DOHC
-4 barrel vs 2 barrel (obv doesnt pertain to an SN95 Cobra but still good V8 knowledge
-Why or why not (would a 94-95 Cobra be better because of the 5.0 vs 96+ only having a 4.6L)

Thanks!

there's quite a few variants of the SN95 Mustang..

94/95 have the 5.0 V8, pushrod engine 215 hp 285 torque. , designed in the late 50's and introduced in 1962 in 221 cubes.. great engine, a lot of aftermarket parts.

96-98 GT have the 4.6 SOHC designed to match the power and torque of the 5.0 it replaced. 215 hp 285 torque in 96, 225 hp/290 torque in 97/98.

Also the 99-04 is the "New Edge" Mustang, but still a SN95 chassis
99-04 GT have the same 4.6 SOHC, but with PI heads and make quite abit more power. 260 hp 302 ft lbs torque.

94/95 Cobra has the same 5.0 in the GT, but with better heads, intake etc.. rated at 240 hp / 285 ft lbs torque..

96-98 Cobra has the 4.6 DOHC, rated 305 hp/ 300 torque

99/01 Cobra also has the 4.6 DOHC, but with tumble port heads, for a better fuel/air mixing, rated 320 hp / 317 torque. Also the 99/01 Cobra have IRS, some people hate it, others love it..

03/04 Cobra same 4.6 DOHC but with major revisions. Cast iron block vice aluminum in the earlier Cobras. They came with 112 cubic inch Eaton Gen IV superchargers and rated 390 hp/390 torque, but very under rated.. (closer to 440 hp 430 torque taking what they made stock at the wheels)

T-56 6 speed transmission since the earlier 5 speeds available couldn't handle the torque the Terminators produced.

as far as reliability, at stock levels any of the above engines are good for a couple hundred thousand miles with regular maintenance, some have over 300K and counting..

 

[xXGadfly09Xx]

there's quite a few variants of the SN95 Mustang..

94/95 have the 5.0 V8, pushrod engine 215 hp 285 torque. , designed in the late 50's and introduced in 1962 in 221 cubes.. great engine, a lot of aftermarket parts.

96-98 GT have the 4.6 SOHC designed to match the power and torque of the 5.0 it replaced. 215 hp 285 torque in 96, 225 hp/290 torque in 97/98.

Also the 99-04 is the "New Edge" Mustang, but still a SN95 chassis
99-04 GT have the same 4.6 SOHC, but with PI heads and make quite abit more power. 260 hp 302 ft lbs torque.

94/95 Cobra has the same 5.0 in the GT, but with better heads, intake etc.. rated at 240 hp / 285 ft lbs torque..

96-98 Cobra has the 4.6 DOHC, rated 305 hp/ 300 torque

99/01 Cobra also has the 4.6 DOHC, but with tumble port heads, for a better fuel/air mixing, rated 320 hp / 317 torque. Also the 99/01 Cobra have IRS, some people hate it, others love it..

03/04 Cobra same 4.6 DOHC but with major revisions. Cast iron block vice aluminum in the earlier Cobras. They came with 112 cubic inch Eaton Gen IV superchargers and rated 390 hp/390 torque, but very under rated.. (closer to 440 hp 430 torque taking what they made stock at the wheels)

T-56 6 speed transmission since the earlier 5 speeds available couldn't handle the torque the Terminators produced.

as far as reliability, at stock levels any of the above engines are good for a couple hundred thousand miles with regular maintenance, some have over 300K and counting..

Mach 1 cough cough

 

[11Past9]

Maybe I should have said Low end usable torque.
Put 7lbs of boost on a 5.0 and you'll be making 300rwhp also but at 2500 rpms. And stock turbo? when 240sx's come with turbos? Seriously I never of one. I think the 200sx came with one.

My 240sx was a full jam sr20 black top swap with 40k on it

 

[11Past9]

there's quite a few variants of the SN95 Mustang..

94/95 have the 5.0 V8, pushrod engine 215 hp 285 torque. , designed in the late 50's and introduced in 1962 in 221 cubes.. great engine, a lot of aftermarket parts.

96-98 GT have the 4.6 SOHC designed to match the power and torque of the 5.0 it replaced. 215 hp 285 torque in 96, 225 hp/290 torque in 97/98.

Also the 99-04 is the "New Edge" Mustang, but still a SN95 chassis
99-04 GT have the same 4.6 SOHC, but with PI heads and make quite abit more power. 260 hp 302 ft lbs torque.

94/95 Cobra has the same 5.0 in the GT, but with better heads, intake etc.. rated at 240 hp / 285 ft lbs torque..

96-98 Cobra has the 4.6 DOHC, rated 305 hp/ 300 torque

99/01 Cobra also has the 4.6 DOHC, but with tumble port heads, for a better fuel/air mixing, rated 320 hp / 317 torque. Also the 99/01 Cobra have IRS, some people hate it, others love it..

03/04 Cobra same 4.6 DOHC but with major revisions. Cast iron block vice aluminum in the earlier Cobras. They came with 112 cubic inch Eaton Gen IV superchargers and rated 390 hp/390 torque, but very under rated.. (closer to 440 hp 430 torque taking what they made stock at the wheels)

T-56 6 speed transmission since the earlier 5 speeds available couldn't handle the torque the Terminators produced.

as far as reliability, at stock levels any of the above engines are good for a couple hundred thousand miles with regular maintenance, some have over 300K and counting..

Thanks man that was a healthy chunk of usefull info

 

[EatonEggbeater]

I can't resist...

Bustin' your chops; welcome to the V-8 world. oke:

 

[99GTvert]

I'm sorry, you said you've seen SRT4's with more hp than tq at 2-4k like they accomplished some huge feat. Just clarifying.

 

[NasteeNate]

Don't listen to the people that count the 2V 96-98 sn95 out. Any modular platform will absolutely run forever if regular maintenance was done. There are more 2v (two valve engines) combing the streets then there are 4v's. The old pushrod 5.0 is less reliable than ohc designs by nature and have stupid small problems. And unless your heart is desired on one look toward the ohc engines. Now if your looking for the best bang for the buck a pushrod would yield better results simply for the cost factor in the performance category.

If you do not plan on modding heavy go with the 4v platform. If you want something cheaper, reliable, and easier to mod go 2v. Most 4v people I know simply don't touch the engine platform because anything engine related cost $$$. As in reliability anything 0hc will be for you. If you don't plan to mod as much go 4v, if you do go 2v, and if you want just straight performance go pushrod.

 

[32ValveRom]

What's this, I always heard that the sn pushrods weren't very modder-friendly because the blocks tend to crack after a certain amount of torque? I can't remember where I heard that but I think I'd just stick with a mod motor. Either 2v or 4v's fine, especially if you wanna throw a blower

 

[Silver2003Cobra]

Mach 1 cough cough

yeah, you have the Mach1, basically a New Edge 96-98 Cobra (4.6 DOHC with solid rear axle) the Bullit a beefed up New Edge 4.6 SOHC GT.. I'm sure there's a few more out there, but all in all, most people think of the GT and Cobra when talking about V8 Mustangs.

 

[xXGadfly09Xx]

yeah, you have the Mach1, basically a New Edge 96-98 Cobra (4.6 DOHC with solid rear axle) the Bullit a beefed up New Edge 4.6 SOHC GT.. I'm sure there's a few more out there, but all in all, most people think of the GT and Cobra when talking about V8 Mustangs.

Yup Hey OP it goes something like this

00 Cobra R>03/04 Cobra>>99-04 Saleen SC>99-04 Roush SC>03/04 mach>99/01 Cobra>96-98 cobra>94/95 Cobra>01 Bullit>99-04 GT>99-04 Roush N/A>99-04 Saleen N/A>94/95 GT>96-98 GT>96-98 Saleen

 

[Jack Burton]

Yup Hey OP it goes something like this

00 Cobra R>03/04 Cobra>>99-04 Saleen SC>99-04 Roush SC>03/04 mach>99/01 Cobra>96-98 cobra>94/95 Cobra>01 Bullit>99-04 GT>99-04 Roush N/A>99-04 Saleen N/A>94/95 GT>96-98 GT>96-98 Saleen

I'm sure with his $8,000 budget we can narrow you list down quite a bit.

 

[Jimmysidecarr]

I'm sure with his $8,000 budget we can narrow your list down quite a bit.

LOL! For sure!

But he could shop the list and try to find the best bang for the buck now that he knows the pecking order.
00 Cobra R>03/04 Cobra>>99-04 Saleen SC>99-04 Roush SC>03/04 mach>99/01 Cobra>96-98 cobra>94/95 Cobra>01 Bullit>99-04 GT>99-04 Roush N/A>99-04 Saleen N/A>94/95 GT>96-98 GT>96-98 Saleen

Cars in red and especially the 00R are not in the right price range.
Cars in blue are high bang for the buck and in the price range.

The 03/04 Cobras have very high bang for the buck but they are still bringing bigger money than the OP is banking.

Saleen and Roush = big name big money, marginal bang for the buck.(IMHO)

I'll bet a high mile Mach1(without the tick) would be a great possibility.
http://www.lemonfree.com/car/Ford-Mustang-2003/1FAFP42R33F452685

Though the low mile cars are listed pretty high still.

Mustangs in general are a very robust car capable of very high mileage reliability, easy and cheap to mod and generally quite fun to drive.:rockon::beer:

AND old guy approved:thumbsup:

 

[pho_phizzat]

8k I say go with an FBODY
Interior is shit though.

 

[NasteeNate]

What's this, I always heard that the sn pushrods weren't very modder-friendly because the blocks tend to crack after a certain amount of torque? I can't remember where I heard that but I think I'd just stick with a mod motor. Either 2v or 4v's fine, especially if you wanna throw a blower

The block splits north of 500hp, but they make mean h/c/i conversions for dirt cheap. 96-98 gt's make even more power with h/c/i = tfs but they cost 3x more than a pushrod. The blocks are iron, and hold double the power a pushrod block can take so from a performance perspective the pushrods win since parts are not as expensive. 4v go cry in a corner if it's not a terminator, because anything engine related is an arm an leg. Only option is small boltons or a blower.

 

[MTBSully]

LS1 F-body.

For under $8k, you can get a really clean LS1 that respond incredibly well to mods, and IMO, look a lot better than the 94-98 mustangs to boot.

JMO

 

[ford_racer]

You want a Fox or 94-95 GT/Cobra. Don't bother with anything else.

 

[2 cam sam]

LS1 F-body.

For under $8k, you can get a really clean LS1 that respond incredibly well to mods, and IMO, look a lot better than the 94-98 mustangs to boot.

JMO

Don't forget the mullet!

 

[xXGadfly09Xx]

LS1 F-body.

For under $8k, you can get a really clean LS1 that respond incredibly well to mods, and IMO, look a lot better than the 94-98 mustangs to boot.

JMO

98-02 WS6 is sex

You want a Fox or 94-95 GT/Cobra. Don't bother with anything else.

THIS!