Close Race-2.80 against 2.93

04-MystiChrome

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Hmmm-Assuming the "EXACT" same mods & SAME driver....
I think a 2.93 with 4.10's could possibly beat
a 2.80 with 3.55 stock gears in the 1/8.
Especially up here at 5000 ft where we
don't spin 'em like you guys at sea level.
 

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I dont agree!:) Equal drivers and equal mods a 2.80 car will work over a 2.93 car everytime!!!!
 

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i have to agree with trey. you can run good with a 2.93 but equal drivers and equal launches , the 2.8 will come up on top every time!!!
 

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Originally posted by trey193
I dont agree!:) Equal drivers and equal mods a 2.80 car will work over a 2.93 car everytime!!!!

The mods aren't equal as the 2.93 uses gears like 4.10's
while the 2.80 is the 3.55's. I think it's to close to call.
 

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I would say the 2.9 with the 4.10's will win over the 2.8 with 3.55's... Now if the guy with the 4.10's ran a 2.8, there wouldnt be any close calls:)
 

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Yes if everything were exact you would win. But we all know someone is the better driver and someones motor is running better that day. So go out and prove it. Even with the gear difference, thats a drivers race.
 

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Most races are won by the driver IMO unless the two are greatly mismatched. 500 ponies is not going to do much good against another car putting down 450-475 if the driver can't launch and shift worth a darn. LOL!
 

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Originally posted by 04-MystiChrome
The mods aren't equal as the 2.93 uses gears like 4.10's
while the 2.80 is the 3.55's. I think it's to close to call.

i know you mentioned having the 4.10's in your altitude, but in my case being near sea level, putting 4.10 gears in your car would not benefit you in any way. you would NEVER be able to get out of the whole. you would blow the tires off half way down the track. besides that , i dont think 4.10s are a good gear for our cars anyway , because your not holding the boost for as long you could be. thats why almost no blower cars go with anything higher then 373's and n/a cars go 410's and up.
 

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Couldnt agree with John more, not sure why you are so hung up on 4.10's I dont know of anyone running killer 1/8 or 1/4 times with them.
 

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Originally posted by trey193
Couldnt agree with John more, not sure why you are so hung up on 4.10's I dont know of anyone running killer 1/8 or 1/4 times with them.

What village our you guys from? Plenty of guys with
Superchargers & Turbo's run gears. What is it with
Cobra guys that have NEVER run gears seem to know
so much about geared Cobras. There are a number of
Cobra guys run'n gears in the 11's. 3.90's are perfect
for sea level & 4.10's at 5000+ feet. Have you ever run
at any mile high track? I think not!
 
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Since U seem to know so much Mr Mile High take a look at the 10,11, & 12 second club members on Modularfords.com and see how many people have 3.90's or 4.10's. U will find virtually all have the stock 3.55's and only person I know that runs really well with gears is JerryK he runs 3.90's. Its obvious to me you got the Mustic to go to car shows and not to race, where are your timeslips anyway?:)
 

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Originally posted by trey193
Since U seem to know so much Mr Mile High take a look at the 10,11, & 12 second club members on Modularfords.com and see how many people have 3.90's or 4.10's. U will find virtually all have the stock 3.55's and only person I know that runs really well with gears is JerryK he runs 3.90's. Its obvious to me you got the Mustic to go to car shows and not to race, where are your timeslips anyway?:)

Ya know, I don't give a shit what anyone else runs & what you
think anyway. I do know what works for me. I've owned & run
more cars than you will in your lifetime. You obviously have a
major "gear-envy" issue and I'm done with your bitchiness.
You really think that all 400+ HP cars don't ever use gears.
Now I know what village your from. There is a number of
geared Cobra's posted on the main modification & database
board on this forum for those of you that would like to see
for yourself.
 
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Why did you ask for opinions and then whine like a spoiled kid when you didn't get the response you wanted? If you don't care what anybody thinks then why ask? Maybe the alltitude Also waiting to here what times you run.
 
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Originally posted by black10th vert
Why did you ask for opinions and then whine like a spoiled kid when you didn't get the response you wanted? If you don't care what anybody thinks then why ask? Maybe the alltitude Also waiting to here what times you run.

Same Village-Different State.........................
And I wouldn't give you the right time of day.
 
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Originally posted by 04-MystiChrome
Ya know, I don't give a shit what anyone else runs & what you
think anyway. I do know what works for me. I've owned & run
more cars than you will in your lifetime. You obviously have a
major "gear-envy" issue and I'm done with your bitchiness.
You really think that all 400+ HP cars don't ever use gears.
Now I know what village your from. There is a number of
geared Cobra's posted on the main modification & database
board on this forum for those of you that would like to see
for yourself.

Simply throwing gears at any car will not necessarly make it faster. You must have the RIGHT gear for the RIGHT car- gearing, weight, power curve all play a role in selecting the right gear. Appearently you HAVEN'T run a lot of cars in your lifetime or you would understand what the other 99% of the people here are trying to tell you. I'll dumb it down for you. A lot of NA, blower and turbo cars run gears BECAUSE THE NEED THEM. The centrifigal and turbo cars generally need RPM to build boost; the sooner they get the revs up the better and that's where gears help, plus they help get you off the line quicker. Most of the modded Cobras are making close to 500 ft/lbs at the tires around 2500 rpm. We simply don't need more gear, period, which is why the vast majority don't run them.

I've run gears in other cars- too much gear can actually slow you down. Now, in an XTC type of car with a solid axle and big slicks, maybe.. any maybe some small increase in gear at high altitude.. but for the other 95% of us it's a complete waste of time for our power level. Why do you think a 500hp Viper runs a 3.07 gear and cuts 122 mph quarters? And the AMG E55, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds with a 2.65 gear.

Only amatures throw gears at a car without taking into consideration the other factors. :read:
 

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Originally posted by 03SoCalCobra

Only amatures throw gears at a car without taking into consideration the other factors. :read:

Listen, I agree with that... and one of the main "factors"
is being up at 5,800 to 8000 feet. Many that have run
in Co, Nv or NM will concur that gears are needed at
these high altitudes. Boost levels drop from 2lbs to 6lbs
depending on what pulley your running & Trq is drastically
effected as well. The gears make up for trq loss at high
altitude which was a factor on our decision of gear. Trap
speed is also a factor based on power....If you want to trap
at 6000+ in 4th at this high altitude you'll need gears to
get you there. Since HP-power effects trap speed so drastically
at these altitudes the only way I can stay within powerband is
with the gears. Without the gears at high altitude the car is
a dog cause you just don't & can't get any air plain & simple.
 
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What is it with
Cobra guys that have NEVER run gears seem to know
so much about geared Cobras. There are a number of
Cobra guys run'n gears in the 11's. 3.90's are perfect
for sea level & 4.10's at 5000+ feet. Have you ever run
at any mile high track? I think not! [/B][/QUOTE]

geez did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed:cryying:

have you ever run gears in a cobra other than the stock 3.55????

i have not run at any mile high tracks and with you being in reno nv neither have you at that location as your elevation is 4,498 feet.which mile high track did you run at???

you are free to add gears to yours and show us your timeslip results,but i will keep my 3.55's since i have enough torque multiplication as it is now:burnout:
 

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