i believe hes trying to backwards calculate going off what most cars put down at the wheels. without knowing the true drivetrain loss though, its a pot shot at best.
Come on guys lets get real the new 5.0 has more then 420hp!
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i believe hes trying to backwards calculate going off what most cars put down at the wheels. without knowing the true drivetrain loss though, its a pot shot at best.
True.
I think Ford is going to give the motor a little room for future improvement against the upcoming competition. The 5.0 already shines pretty good, but it should shine even more when it gets DI.
Exactly.
It says: "The all-new Mustang GT is projected to generate more than 420 horsepower and 390 lb.- . of torque"
and
"Output: More than 420 horsepower, more than 390 lb.- . of torque"
It's like people on here don't understand what "more than" means.
I agree! Its beautiful and sophisticated. I loved that they've moved the cup holders slightly to the right of the shifter. So much better for all the models before.
New intake manifold as well? Someone, here I think, indicated the new specs are similar to the Cobra Jet 5.0
Dude, I have nothing against you personally, but you spout all sorts of idiotic misinformation in every thread.
You claimed that your cousin's friend's machinist was a Ford exec and that there would be both an SC and NA 5.8 in the new Mustang. You were WRONG.
You have also spouted this 445 hp shit in multiple threads now. Get it straight - the 2011-2012 GT has 412 hp, the 2012-2013 Boss has 444, and the 2013-2014 GT has 420. None are rated at 445.
As for who revs their engine that high, I rev my Boss to 7500 all the time, it's still pulling hard at the rev limit.
The new intake manifold is based off the old GT manifold with a few tweaks and the charge motion flaps. It's not a high rise like the Boss or CJ. I agree with whoever said the motor will likely be intake manifold limited.
That interior is beautiful. I hope I can swing it to buy this car.
Possibly, but the 2015 5.0L is NOT getting direct injection.
Ford is probably saving that for when the 6th gen camaro comes out with the LT1.
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yeah if the CM plates are anything like all of fords other CM plates it will actually reduce intake manifold airflow even when they are not activated at high rpm. This engine should make substantially more lowend torque which is a big problem with the coyote. If you guys have driven an LS3 car you'll see what i'm saying. Most do not care about torque at 2k rpm but ford does. You can put the most badass heads/cams on any motor but an engine will only make power up until it's choke point can't flow any more air. The BOSS had a different intake manifold for a reason.
That massive low end torque let's Ford use big overdrive's to sip fuel while cruising and with CAFE standards coming down hard and gas prices always heading up it is important to sacrifice hp to get torque. Especially with an LT1 camaro coming in the future. That LT1 puts down a torque curve like it has 7 liters. They could probably get away with a .4 overdrive with that engine.
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The gains will come from the new heads and cam, no doubt about that, but they won't get the expensive CNC process the Boss heads got. I think power will be about the same as the Boss in the end. Going to larger valves and higher lift cams will probably equal out what the CNC process gained. Just my .02 cents.
450 to 460 HP.......400 to 410 TQ.
Ford will underate the motor at 448hp and 390ftlbs.
Am I the only one that picked up on the fact that the GT Coyote 5.0 will NOT have the CNC ported heads from the Road Runner 5.0? All of these changes including more valve lift could definitely point to powerband improvements that would make for a faster car with more power under the curve but not much if any more peak power.
on what grounds do you base the assumption that...
1) revised heads with increased port flow
2) larger valves
3) revised cams with more lift and unknown duration
will not be capable of producing more peak as well as under the curve power?
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First of all I said could, and quite frankly without knowing the tune, and VVT tables it would be impossible to guess. Ford said that the 5.0 would be rated at 420 hp in their preliminary press release, and I don't think that we are going to truly be looking at a 465 hp or 480 hp 5.0 for a stock GT. Without additional engine revolutions, and without knowing how the heads flow it is possible that Ford could definitely be focusing on improving the powerband instead of focusing on outright power.
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