Not sure if you dont like it or a just a big fan of Team America?
Not sure if you dont like it or a just a big fan of Team America?
I'm a tad ignorant in the HD/SD area of CAFE regulations. But what CAFE standards are the 6.4L not passing? They don't have to disclose the MPG numbers, right?
I know diesels are more regulated, no matter for car or HD use.
This is what happens when your fleet don't and can't pass CAFE standards and you are bleeding money as you pay the fines because of this. But everyone on here is like oh but Dodge is killing it. No they are not as Fiat for the last 2 years have been trying quietly to get another company to buy Chrysler with no success. But go ahead and Hellcat everything and so be forced to pay fines that you didn't need to. This is the main reason no one wants to take ownership.
NA usually does make less HP.
Godzilla weighs 538 lbs. Not sure on the Ecoboost but I believe it's around 450 lbs. 88 lbs heavier for twice the displacement is not bad at all.
Engine weight source - Watch The Ford 7.3L Godzilla Dyno Pull, Engine Weight Revealed
And yes, I had a 2018.
I found this Ford graphic interesting:
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What heavier motor are you talking about?I understand why you wouldn't go back to an ecoboost, I had the same issue with two different gen GM SUVs and would never go back to GM. With that said from my point of view and experience with ecoboost I don't see the point it putting in a heavier motor ( more weight over the nose) and less hp and tq. And the ecoboost is far easier to extract more power from it.
LOLNot sure if you dont like it or a just a big fan of Team America?
What heavier motor are you talking about?
The 7.3? Is it Iron Block? Even so it's OHV compared to a DOHC + two turbos + piping/cooling.
I bet you'd be surprised how close they are.
You are also talking about peak power and now power across the curve. Ecoboost sucks at towing. It has to world DAMN hard and fuel economy crashes. They also sound like crap.
Lastly, brother inlaw sees a regular flow of F150 trade and a blow turbo is a regular occurrence. Most customers don't even know they had a problem.
I feel like the only ppl that have had motor problems have been the 2017/2018 guys and it is normal for the first couple years of a new motor to have to work out the kinks.
It's just that CAFE is like it name implies a Average of fuel economy so you take all your truck, suv's lump them together and do the ratio to find out what your average is and it best be at or above what the Feds set and Chrysler I think is like 5 miles below what the Fed mandate is!!!! Hence why no one wants them as it would be a nightmare to try and get the company to fall within it. I remember that it was about 25.5 MPG for the longest time then W Bush fingled fangled it then Obama and finally Trump turned it back to what ever it was when Bush was in office. So I'll have to look it up but what ever it is Chrysler is like 4.5- .8 below it!!! so taking that 25.5 they are like around 21.6 or there about Ford is like 27 and GM slightly less at about 26.3 again it's been a few years since I looked all of this up (2012-15) But again out of all of them Chrysler is the worse off and needs the most help but they got the least money to work with in order tofix this glaring problem hence why they was forced to pay about $90 million in fee's and penalties in 2018. $ 90 million that could of went into tooling, factory expansion or even new product and lines!
I just hope the new raptor sounds better....
What heavier motor are you talking about?
The 7.3? Is it Iron Block? Even so it's OHV compared to a DOHC + two turbos + piping/cooling.
I bet you'd be surprised how close they are.
You are also talking about peak power and now power across the curve. Ecoboost sucks at towing. It has to world DAMN hard and fuel economy crashes. They also sound like crap.
Lastly, brother inlaw sees a regular flow of F150 trade and a blow turbo is a regular occurrence. Most customers don't even know they had a problem.
You are also talking about peak power and now power across the curve. Ecoboost sucks at towing. It has to world DAMN hard and fuel economy crashes. They also sound like crap.
Lastly, brother inlaw sees a regular flow of F150 trade and a blow turbo is a regular occurrence. Most customers don't even know they had a problem.
The tougher CAFE standards are a good thing for domestic automakers. The imports are the ones who are struggling to meet CAFE standards.They were gambling on Trump rolling back some CAFE standards
I love my 3.5 EB, torque is epic. Non raptor here. Lots of oomph. Does drop off a little in the upper rpm range though. No biggie. That being said I’m going to compare a 7.3 SD and the f150 when I’m buying my next truck. My wife likes the Tremor too so I got that goin for me, which is nice
You'll love it