Got a ticket for not wearing a seat belt, BUT I was wearing one.
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If I do want to oppose the ticket, will I get charged with court fees. I'm located in Illinois. I mean the ticket is $60, theres no point in trying to argue my point if their going to charge me lets say $100 to do so.
I knew I had a reason to leave Chicago at the age of six.
You mean to tell me that 46 can't just ramble on in court about absolutely nothing?
He will just resort to name calling with the judge like he has with everyone who has disagreed with him here. I'm sure that will get his point across. :bored:
:lol: Laughable at best. Comedic relief in the Donut Shop, it has its place I guess.
I wouldn't take advice from 46. That's a great start.
Wouldn't make a difference to me. I get paid overtime for court. :shrug: I don't get all upset and start name calling like you when someone disagrees with me though. It's part of the game. I've never lost a traffic case. But then again I put facts in my reports, unlike your posts in here.
Ya! Pay that dude lol. I honestly believe you won't lose after reading these replies!
Are you dense? One more time, my post is not a script. If you can't find a few ideas you could build into a defense for the violation at hand, you're hopeless.
your post is full of inaccurat babbling that if anybody follows even half of it the judge will laugh them out of court. Maybe what you should have done was make RELEVANT pointers that would be useful without having to dredge it up out of the depths of that mess.
If you speak in court as well as you wrote your first sentence, I'm guessing the both the judge and clerk ask for lots of clarification.
Why don't you do something useful and provide the OP with a correct, RELEVANT concise outline on how to defend himself in court without using the phrases, "plead guilty," "traffic school," or "plead it down to?"
Go ahead. I can hardly wait to see what you come up with.
I haven't used those terms at all. Frankly in this case he is PROBABLY going to be better off just paying it. it isn't a points violation so it won't affect anything but 60 bucks out of his pocket.
Going to court would be a crap shoot at best. However, if his record is clean and he tells the judge that the officer was mistaken and that he did have his seat belt on. If it is his first offense and if the judge's wife didn't burn his toast that morning he has a pretty good chance of getting it dismissed. if the judge got burned toast then he will likely have the fine and court costs to deal with.
other than the above there isn't much to do. pulling that crap you posted in front of the judge is sure to get him convicted, your opinion notwithstanding.
this ticket has few ways to fight it. I gave one. you gave a bunch of irrelevant shit that won't work. I give advice that is realistic as opposed to the dream courtroom you apparently practice in.
I am a Prosecutor.
Judges do allow some leeway to "Pro Se" litigants, but not to the extent of your little diatribe. Plus, Pro Se litigants still must follow the rules of procedure and evidence and a Prosecutor will shut down such a fishing expedition, especially over a non-criminal traffic summons.
Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day. Your limited experience is great for you, but it does not create a rule and is the exception.
I could lay a foundation for some of those points, others a foundation could not be offered without expert testimony. Once again you clearly do not understand the rules of procedure or evidence.
In most jurisdictions you are not charged court costs unless you lose.
I asked how would you fight one because I almost got a seatbelt ticket a long time ago when I was wearing mine and wondered then what would I have done other than pay it.
46-062, you sure are good for some laughs...
good thing this isnt in smackdown....you might teach us all a lesson.
good thing this isnt in smackdown....you might teach us all a lesson.
I think if it were a matter of if you were wearing it or not, taking photos might help. However you stated that the officer said his partner saw you putting it on at the intersection, so I don't think photos would really help you.
I once argued in court a number of reasons an officer could not tell I was doing what I was accused of, only to have the officer say his "years of experience" were how he could tell. Case closed, guilty as charged. Good luck.
I once argued in court a number of reasons an officer could not tell I was doing what I was accused of, only to have the officer say his "years of experience" were how he could tell. Case closed, guilty as charged. Good luck.
hey 40-062, how about the date and case number, state and county of offense for verification...it is public record anyway.
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