Gun Porn Thread!!!

[SVT-BansheeMan]

The problem with the give whamen revolvers logic is that revolvers suck ass.

I agree but gender is irrelevant.

That heavy double action trigger is going to cause an in experienced shooter to pull right with their shots.

I do the same with semi autos. So do others with my semi autos.

They are nose heavy and will cause an inexperienced shooter to shot down.

I seen the same thing at the shooting range last month when an entire class was doing their shooting portion of the CCW class. No one had revolvers. No one had nose heavy guns. The majority were inexperienced.

An inexperienced shooter will potentially have fingers forward of the cylinder. Even a low power 38 can give a quick wincing burn which may cause them to drop the gun.

I agree. However a burn is better than a "single shot" from a limp wrist/jam.

Hammers get caught on clothes. Cylinder timing can get jammed. A snub nose is loud and snappy and typically has shit sights.

All guns inside our house will be loud. All pistols I have no matter the Barrel side will ring my eyes with no ear pro outside the home. I do dislike shooting very small guns.

Pound for pound they typically are heavier.

I prefer shooting a heavier/larger gun over something light and small.

All this can be trained away but obviously that training could be better spent on a modern weapon like a Bodyguard, Shield, 43 or 365.

I agree.

If you don't have the skills to fire a pistol you have no business carrying a revolver.

The person who I quoted did not mention conceal carry. With that said, I disagree. A revolver may be best for certain people. I agree a lot of the issues above can be fixed with training/practice.

I had a similar discussion with a family friend at a Mardi Gras parade Saturday. One thing I did not do was tell him a certain type of gun is bad or good. I explained the pros and cons of a lot of types. That way he can research and make a decision.

 

[Relaxed Chaos]

You did not tell us what you want to do with the firearm. So until that is answered, I wont bother getting into other things.

The reason I want one:
1) Personal protection/home defense

Other uses:
2) Training/target shooting/hobbiest
3) CC, but only after I'm very proficient/confident at 2)
4) Lose it in a boating accident

I don't plan on being a collector of firearms, but would like a revolver and a tactical shotgun (but owning one of those appears to be a PITA).

 

[Corbic]

The reason I want one:
1) Personal protection/home defense

Other uses:
2) Training/target shooting/hobbiest
3) CC, but only after I'm very proficient/confident at 2)
4) Lose it in a boating accident

I don't plan on being a collector of firearms, but would like a revolver and a tactile shotgun (but owning one of those appears to be a PITA).

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12 Gauges Suck, Revolvers Suck. Sorry / Not Sorry. The myths around the two are old Fudd lore of an age long since past.

 

[Corbic]

I agree but gender is irrelevant.

But that is the stereotype and fudd logic. Give the whamen and elderly revolvers.

I do the same with semi autos. So do others with my semi autos.

If you do it with a Pistol, you'll do it worse with a Revolver.

I seen the same thing at the shooting range last month when an entire class was doing their shooting portion of the CCW class. No one had revolvers. No one had nose heavy guns. The majority were inexperienced.

If you do it with a pistol, you'll do it worse with a Revolver

I agree. However a burn is better than a "single shot" from a limp wrist/jam.

If you can't complete basic operations of your fire arm - mag load, chamber, safety, trigger discipline, shoot... You should not be carrying a firearm. #changemymind.

All guns inside our house will be loud. All pistols I have no matter the Barrel side will ring my eyes with no ear pro outside the home. I do dislike shooting very small guns.

A snub nose .357 is going to shockingly louder and brighter then a 9mm Shield. We're already talking about people sooo inexperienced they can't rack a slide, change a magazine, work a safety or hold a pistol correctly... You are just injecting more failure opportunity.

I prefer shooting a heavier/larger gun over something light and small.

Kay, but do you carry it? Gonna have a hard time convincing your whamen who can't rack a slide, change a magazine, work a safety or hold a pistol correctly... to shove a Colt Python in her yoga pants or purse.

I had a similar discussion with a family friend at a Mardi Gras parade Saturday. One thing I did not do was tell him a certain type of gun is bad or good. I explained the pros and cons of a lot of types. That way he can research and make a decision.

I typically push people because I know if I don't some dipshit behind the counter or a Fudd in front of the counter will.

 

[SVT-BansheeMan]

The reason I want one:
1) Personal protection/home defense

Pistols suck for stopping people. So perhaps consider a semi auto rifle in 5.56 for the home. We unfortunately have to use a pistol (kept in a small finger print safe) since we have a small child. There's no way I can have a rifle ready that is incognito enough for us in the situation I am in. For others, they easily can. Some people can only have one gun due to finanal or other reasons so this leave a long gun out due to you wanted to carry. I just had a small hand gun for a long time.

Other uses:
2) Training/target shooting/hobbiest
3) CC, but only after I'm very proficient/confident at 2)

A little extra weight can feel a lot heavier when carrying. The type of holster and how you carry it makes a big deal. How you will move or sit will vary on how it feels. The holsters i have range from $60 to $180. Experimentation is not cheap. It is also vary time consuming. It is a pita. It is expensive. You may like the first holster you try, you may like the 10th. I understand reading that sucks and perhaps may make you rethink the whole thing. But you dress and work around the fire warm in the best way you can. It can take a long time to get comfortable doing so.

I don't plan on being a collector of firearms, but would like a revolver and a tactile shotgun (but owning one of those appears to be a PITA).

Lets talk about the cons of shotguns, 12 gauges since they are most popular for adults. They (shotguns in general) are low capacity. Semi autos can be very picky with ammo. Pump shotguns must be ran correctly for them to have a follow up shot. Short stroke or whatever and it wont chamber/fire again. They are long. They are heavy. You absolutely should aim. They do not spread and cover a wall like in movies. In in-home distances they are like a rifle (read as don't spread much). That goes for shoter barrels. I've tested this myself with my 28" and my 14". You can see results all over youtube of those test.

Pros, they are really really good at stopping something if you hit them.

A snub nose .357 is going to shockingly louder and brighter then a 9mm Shield. We're already talking about people sooo inexperienced they can't rack a slide, change a magazine, work a safety or hold a pistol correctly... You are just injecting more failure opportunity.

There is a chance for different types of failures. I would rather for my wife to have a revolver as I said in my original post. I am not talking about anyone else. Guns are loud. I agree a shorter barrel is louder. Generally citizens dont reload during a gun fight.

Kay, but do you carry it? Gonna have a hard time convincing your whamen who can't rack a slide, change a magazine, work a safety or hold a pistol correctly... to shove a Colt Python in her yoga pants or purse.

I was no talking about carrying a revolver nor carrying at all. I was talking from an at home perspective.

"If you can't complete basic operations of your fire arm - mag load, chamber, safety, trigger discipline, shoot... You should not be carrying a firearm. #changemymind."

I have no reason to change your mind. Your feelings don't hold any weight to people's rights.

 

[Corbic]

I was no talking about carrying a revolver nor carrying at all. I was talking from an at home perspective.

Not understanding this. If you're at home why are you not rocking the rifle.

"If you can't complete basic operations of your fire arm - mag load, chamber, safety, trigger discipline, shoot... You should not be carrying a firearm. #changemymind."

I have no reason to change your mind. Your feelings don't hold any weight to people's rights.

Cool. Untrained idiots also have a right to a speedy trial for accidental discharges and collateral damage.

Anyone with a inkling of responsibility should be pushing for training and familiarity. It benefits the user and everyone around them. If you are actually all about "muh rights" then self policing in the community is an absolute must. Because if we don't build a culture of responsibility rest assured the Government will.

 

[SVT-BansheeMan]

Not understanding this. If you're at home why are you not rocking the rifle.

If depends how much time I think I have to get to a gun. I would prefer a rifle if i had a choice. I also dont have a white light on any of my rifles atm. My bedside pistol (in a small safe) does. I hope that clears that up.

Anyone with a inkling of responsibility should be pushing for training and familiarity. It benefits the user and everyone around them.

I think training is one of the best things a person can obtain.

 

[mysticsvt]

Great weapon for a first gun IMO would be something like a Beretta 92fs. Weapon that has a hammer, safety, DA/SA. No, I no longer(military) want to carry a Beretta on me. But nothing says you can only own one, baby steps.

I'd recommend this for all occasions and a first weapon. Although I don't want a safety on my carry.

 

[9397SVTs]

Pistols suck for stopping people. So perhaps consider a semi auto rifle in 5.56 for the home. We unfortunately have to use a pistol (kept in a small finger print safe) since we have a small child. There's no way I can have a rifle ready that is incognito enough for us in the situation I am in. For others, they easily can. Some people can only have one gun due to finanal or other reasons so this leave a long gun out due to you wanted to carry. I just had a small hand gun for a long time.

A little extra weight can feel a lot heavier when carrying. The type of holster and how you carry it makes a big deal. How you will move or sit will vary on how it feels. The holsters i have range from $60 to $180. Experimentation is not cheap. It is also vary time consuming. It is a pita. It is expensive. You may like the first holster you try, you may like the 10th. I understand reading that sucks and perhaps may make you rethink the whole thing. But you dress and work around the fire warm in the best way you can. It can take a long time to get comfortable doing so.

Lets talk about the cons of shotguns, 12 gauges since they are most popular for adults. They (shotguns in general) are low capacity. Semi autos can be very picky with ammo. Pump shotguns must be ran correctly for them to have a follow up shot. Short stroke or whatever and it wont chamber/fire again. They are long. They are heavy. You absolutely should aim. They do not spread and cover a wall like in movies. In in-home distances they are like a rifle (read as don't spread much). That goes for shoter barrels. I've tested this myself with my 28" and my 14". You can see results all over youtube of those test.

Pros, they are really really good at stopping something if you hit them.

There is a chance for different types of failures. I would rather for my wife to have a revolver as I said in my original post. I am not talking about anyone else. Guns are loud. I agree a shorter barrel is louder. Generally citizens dont reload during a gun fight.

I was no talking about carrying a revolver nor carrying at all. I was talking from an at home perspective.

"If you can't complete basic operations of your fire arm - mag load, chamber, safety, trigger discipline, shoot... You should not be carrying a firearm. #changemymind."

I have no reason to change your mind. Your feelings don't hold any weight to people's rights.

People that fail to train suck at stopping other people with a pistol.

While long guns can be easier for some to manage, if you don't train with it, you'll suck with it too.

 

[mysticsvt]

Shotguns are getting shit on a little bit, just want to throw this out there....

 

[ZYBORG]

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People that fail to train suck at stopping other people with a pistol.

While long guns can be easier for some to manage, if you don't train with it, you'll suck with it too.

Thats just it.

I rather be the guy with a high point that takes his training seriously vs. the guy that is deemed “a collector” with all kinds of cool toys and gadgets, that barely trains…

skill over gear…. All day.

 

[SVT-BansheeMan]

Over and over people keep saying training is very important. I have not seen anyone deny that or say otherwise.

 

[SSCOBRA03]

I'll jump in on the revolver vs semi-auto pistol. In my experience, it is easier to teach a beginner to become safe and proficient with a revolver and then graduate them to a semi-auto.

It is much easier to teach trigger control with a revolver and no need for immediate action drills.

 

[mysticsvt]

I'll jump in on the revolver vs semi-auto pistol. In my experience, it is easier to teach a beginner to become safe and proficient with a revolver and then graduate them to a semi-auto.

It is much easier to teach trigger control with a revolver and no need for immediate action drills.

We use to have a Mineshop in Kingsville. Was there a base there that shut down?

 

[SSCOBRA03]

NAS Kingsvile is still up and running. It specializes in training pilots

 

[mysticsvt]

NAS Kingsvile is still up and running. It specializes in training pilots

Thanks, we shut that unit down(15) and the one in Ingleside and the base moved to San Diego.

 

[MG0h3]

NAS Kingsvile is still up and running. It specializes in training pilots

Ahhh memories.

We lodged on base for a few months back in 2013.

Never forget walking into the Crapplebees on 77 just off base and immediately smelling cigarette smoke. Still had a smoking section haha. Couldn’t believe it.


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[SSCOBRA03]

Ahhh memories.

We lodged on base for a few months back in 2013.

Never forget walking into the Crapplebees on 77 just off base and immediately smelling cigarette smoke. Still had a smoking section haha. Couldn’t believe it.


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That's the year I retired from BP. We had just moved off of the base and into the new station.

 

[MG0h3]

That's the year I retired from BP. We had just moved off of the base and into the new station.

Ah. You got out before the shitshow.



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[rotor_powerd]

People are really suggesting a 5.56 for home defense? How many walls do you want to shoot through to kill the intruder? Lmao

If someone breaks into my house with my 3 kids sleeping in it, not a chance in hell am I l waking up into a stupor and grabbing anything resembling a rifle. Holy shit