With out using nitrous or swapping out for a turbo system, what's the best setup that will get me 700 rwhp?
how to get 700 rwhp on 91 craptane
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Dont think it can be done on 91.
what's the most that can be done on 91/93.
I live in a crap town and I only have 91 or 100 octane available. (as far as unleaded goes.)
I have a 19 psi pulley that requires 100 octane after the mix. It's next to impossible to get 100 octane if you have any 91 in your tank. I find myself wasting tons of gas and money trying to get the 100 octane as the end result. I know I could use torco or some of the other octane boosters, but I'd rather not.
Would it be possible to make 700 rwhp on a built motor w/ 17-19 psi on 91-93 octane?
I live in a crap town and I only have 91 or 100 octane available. (as far as unleaded goes.)
I have a 19 psi pulley that requires 100 octane after the mix. It's next to impossible to get 100 octane if you have any 91 in your tank. I find myself wasting tons of gas and money trying to get the 100 octane as the end result. I know I could use torco or some of the other octane boosters, but I'd rather not.
Would it be possible to make 700 rwhp on a built motor w/ 17-19 psi on 91-93 octane?
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I dont think so. I am in the same boat right now. i am doing a KB 2.6 with a built bottom end, and anything over 630ish ( from what im hearing) will require nothing but race gas.
GodStang said:
Do tell:beer:
GodStang said:
let the cat outa the bag please
302 VT stroker, Stage III crower cams, Kooks lt headers, yadda yadda yadda Kenne Bell 2.8LH pulleyed for 23psi (seeing ~17psi). The usual.
I know I am not the only one there are a good number of other guys doing it also. There is also guys with T/TT that are at 17-19 psi 93 octane that are in the 850-900 rwhp range. So it is doable.
I know I am not the only one there are a good number of other guys doing it also. There is also guys with T/TT that are at 17-19 psi 93 octane that are in the 850-900 rwhp range. So it is doable.
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GodStang said:
I know a T/TT setup will get me there, but I want to stick w/ the whipple. Are you only seeing 17 psi because of alltitude or because of the built motor and exhaust?, how much timing are you running?
Altitude is 180 ft above sea level (Columbia, SC). Lot to do with boost loss from bigger blower, cams, LTs, and extra cubes. Was running 23 degrees timing but I am in the middle of adding JLT 110mm MAF, and some COPs so things may change.
Also remember Sambandit made 676/638 on pump gas without cams and his engine was heat soaked.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387599&highlight=sambandit
Also this guy made 735 on pump gas with a 2.3L whipple.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387105
The list goes on and on.
Also remember Sambandit made 676/638 on pump gas without cams and his engine was heat soaked.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387599&highlight=sambandit
Also this guy made 735 on pump gas with a 2.3L whipple.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387105
The list goes on and on.
GodStang said:
Stationed in Texas but use to be stationed in Charleston. Headed there tomorrow am bright and early. Bought my 04 Comp Orange Cobra out of Columbia. Nice numbers and mods...2.2 going on now..think 600 will do her for now-Shane
so can over 700 be achieved with a 2.6 KB? you said your only making 17psi, if i pullied a 2.6 for 20 ish, would i achieve the same results? just wondering if you HAVE to have that big of a blower......im in the market right now, so any advice is helpful.
ESQEddy made 707/705 with 20psi on a KB 2.6LS not LH in 100+ degree weather. His was tuned for 200+mph runs and not for track runs and said if it was setup for track runs he would of had a lot more power out of it. So yes it is possible. Remember boost is only a measure of restriction not a measure of power. Most recommend around 17psi to be run on 93 octane. Now there are people running 21psi on 93 octane.
another way is go to a dyno that reads high..lol
someone that is pullied for high boost but making less boost is a more efficient setup. you lose the back pressure but pick up power because the combo is running much more efficient.
someone that is pullied for high boost but making less boost is a more efficient setup. you lose the back pressure but pick up power because the combo is running much more efficient.
Dynos can be set to read higher. Bottom line it probably can be done with more cubes and a built motor with some high level of boost, but its not ideal.
High boost+High degree of timing +pump gas= loads of heat for the motor, with a high possibility of detonation and just isn't health at all. Can it be done w/o a turbo... I will only say probably, but not for long and if I invested in a built motor I wouldn't even think of doing it on pump gas.
High boost+High degree of timing +pump gas= loads of heat for the motor, with a high possibility of detonation and just isn't health at all. Can it be done w/o a turbo... I will only say probably, but not for long and if I invested in a built motor I wouldn't even think of doing it on pump gas.
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Ported heads, cams, long-tubes, built stroker sould do the trick.
yeah that thread that godstang linked earlier to the mamba car was done on prodyno's dynojet which has reputation of reading high. Ive seen cars dynoed on dynojets then taken to prodyno or vice versa and read 30+ higher on prodyno's.
Nope, bought this car about a year ago from a guy who's wife drove it but they owned a muffler shop of sorts. 16,000 miles, mint, no mods for $26,000..great deal:beer:GodStang said:
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