It's official the Boss 302 is back

[Jimmysidecarr]

Yes, VERY limited.

And yes I found out more info, but there is still something else that Ford hasn't revealed. My source is second-hand but it goes to very significant persons in play here. I won't post what I did learn but you were right, it far exceeds my expectations. I am more curious about what they are holding back. The Laguna Seca will be one very special street-legal Mustang!

EDIT: Oops sorry I'm going into the cone of silence.
No PMs or anything, please don't ask I ain't going to be the leaker. Like Senator "Depends" "Leakey Leahey" http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/13/202146.shtml
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/07/leaky-leahy-seeks-sensitive-info-again/

 

[Red Turtle]

My speculation is the difference will be a big horsepower boost. If the engine is the same as the 302R which I believe makes 450+HP through the restrictors then Ford is holding back on the HP and RPM in some manner most likely as a part of warranty considerations.

There has been talk of a "red-key". Maybe the LS will come with a key that has some type of encryption (or a different ECM) that would allow the engine to operate at full tilt but void the warranty if used? Key-on engine has an 8400 redline and makes 475-500HP?

"Balance is the key on Boss, and even more so on Laguna Seca," said Pericak.

Could all be BS, who knows.

hmmm

 

[03 DSG Snake]

What will be the price on the LS (msrp) ?

My guess is an IRS

omg did I say that out loud lol

Or could be the motor itself (internal differences)

or is it the curb weight (CF panels...)

hmmmmmmmmmm

No IRS. :bored:

 

[chuckstang]

You dont have to convince me!

This solid axle out handles the IRS's Ive driven in the stangs any day!

 

[Rob_03Mach]

Some more great BOSS information direct from Ford Racing....

Got to love statements like:

"Boss Laguna Seca result in the best-handling Mustang ever, with more than 1.03 g of lateral acceleration" & "At the back, a large rear spoiler is sized to exactly complement the effect provided by the front splitter and underbody aero treatments, with the combination adding as much as 90 pounds of downforce at 140 mph. :dancenana::rockon::banana:


Ford Racing: Team Ford Racing News

Oh, yea I'm in love....

 

[Ry_Trapp0]

nothing really new there besides the lateral Gs i believe. we know the splitter and undertray are from the boss 302R aero package, and i'm almost positive that the rear wing will be the GT500 piece, possibly with a different gurney flap. maybe it'll come with a couple flaps, so you can 'tune' the aero some.


edit: i'm an idiot, we already know from the pics that the laguna is getting the optional pedestal wing from the GT(or atleast one very similar to it).

 

[chuckstang]

That wing on the LS is terrible looking. I hope the GT500 in 2012 does not get that

I can't wait to see those recaro's in black leather with the snake stiched in the back!

 

[bulldogg]

Had the opportunity to sit in the 2012 Boss Laguna Seca today. The quad exhaust sounds awesome there are 2 small pipes exiting just in front of the rear tires and 2 large pipes out the back. 440 NA HP (forged internals with 7500 RPM redline), 180 MPH speedo, adjustable shocks, recaro seats, rear seat delete, brembos. It was a black one with red roof, spoiler, grille, wheels, and stripes. Didn't get any pics though...

 

[Ry_Trapp0]

That wing on the LS is terrible looking. I hope the GT500 in 2012 does not get that

I can't wait to see those recaro's in black leather with the snake stiched in the back!

i'm 85% sure that the 302LS wing is the exact same wing that is optional on the GT, so i highly doubt it would ever even be an option on the GT500. frankly, the standard boss and the LS both should've either gotten unique wings or the 2010/11 GT500 spoiler(which looks fantastic BTW).


on a side note, why does my spell check say that "should've" isn't a word. "should" and "have", for the contraction "should've", right

 

[satx]

on a side note, why does my spell check say that "should've" isn't a word. "should" and "have", for the contraction "should've", right

lol

 

[Tob]

At the back, a large rear spoiler is sized to exactly complement the effect provided by the front splitter and underbody aero treatments, with the combination adding as much as 90 pounds of downforce at 140 mph.

“You have to experience the new KR at speed in a curve to feel the difference,” said John Pfeiffer, SVT product design engineering specialist. “It has an absolutely minimal areo moment of just 54lb. Ft. at 120 mph, a 92 percent improvement versus the GT-500.

From here.

I'd assume the numbers would be closer at similar speeds. It'd be interesting to see exactly where the difference in "center of pressure' locations between the two.

Tob

On edit...

From Woodward...

 

[Husker]

Jay Leno spills the beans,,,almost.

2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302, Laguna Seca Edition - Muscle Cars - Jay Leno's Garage

Husker

 

[P49Y-CY]

Jay Leno spills the beans,,,almost.

2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302, Laguna Seca Edition - Muscle Cars - Jay Leno's Garage

Husker

ok so i guess that rules out any rumors of a secret irs

so it has to do with the electronic key.... very interesting. staying tuned!

 

[meaty mac]

All that work done to it and it still has the 2 pc Driveshaft.

 

[Nathan'sTsi]

I want to see pricing and quantity numbers for the LS. I really wish they wouldn't make it super limited. That just signals to me that they want to charge too much for it, and they know they will probably only be able to sell "x" at a given price point.
While the electronic key thing sounds cool, If it is as described above it's not mid blowing or anything. If true, I am sure every normal BOSS purchased buy a forum member will be sporting a tune with the same raised redline anyways, and if they "key" would void the warranty anyways, then I don't see the point in having it over a tune. It would just irk me that the suspension tuning is different between the two.
If I got a Laguna, I would probably try to retrofit a rear seat in it anyways for a car seat, at least until we bought something else for the wife and I take the Expo for a DD. If it is 50k though, I will pass regardless. To many good deals on used Porsche Turbos.
It "sounds" like a feb-march on sale date, so I may be daily driving the 700whp talon for a few months if I go that route. My neighbors are going to LOVE me!

 

[04nccobra]

This car sure looks bad, I like it better than the Shelby, I bet the performance will be very close to the Shelby with 440hp also. There is only one problem with it, it's going to be out of my price range. I am betting you will see these hitting the lots around 44-46k, more than 3x what I have into my Cobra.

 

[FISHTAIL]

Hmm...I think I might have to sell the 03 for one of these. The LS model looks cool, but with a little guy, I really need to keep the back seat. Otherwise he won't be able to come with me to any shows or anything .

I just went into the dealer today and put myself on a list to get called when they have some news on when they can sell em. Given how much I like the original in yellow, I might just have to get a 2012 in yellow...

 

[CAPTAIN JACK]

god I simply think the red accent is fugly, love the concept, $41,000 for base car, $51,000 for LS

 

[FISHTAIL]

41k? I've been reading mid 30's.

 

[Nathan'sTsi]

41k? I've been reading mid 30's.

They will probably start in the 30s. I would think mid 30s for the base regular Boss. The seats and diff will be options (together) that will add some cash.

Any pricing you see is pure speculation, although a Ford corp employee was quoted saying they were looking at $34995 to $49k.