Lulzsec:Anonymous

[CobraBob]

underestimating a group like Anonymous is foolish. your friend the cyberspecialist, fails to see and consider the implications of what this group can do.

If they ever target Wall Street's computers and servers, and succeed, think of the ****ing chaos they could throw this country in. They could shut down the entire country's financial sector just like they did Sony's Playstation Network. I'm surprised they haven't targeted Wall Street, Oil Speculators and Oil Companies yet.

they could bring this country's transportation to a halt by hitting all the airline sites, greyhound sites, train sites.

Or groups like Anonymous. I agree with the greater implications we have to consider. There are terror groups who would love nothing more than to paralyze our financial and transportation sectors. That would introduce havoc that would be nationwide vs. localized. IMO there is a greater thread to our country in the long run through terrorist hackers (or Chinese hackers) than bomb threats. I hope I'm wrong in this, but it just seems like a logical area of concern. An area that perhaps we're not paying enough attention to. JMO.

 

[snake134]

it baffles me the age and talent of some of the people involved in that. at the same time, lets be honest... they have absolutely no lives. i have better things to do than sit in my parents basement 24hrs a day learning the ins and outs of software/hardware.

why dont these dudes get actual jobs , with the knowledge they have they could make big $ helping to secure companies cyber assets.

it's not always about the money, man

 

[usmcrebel]

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didnt see that part :beer:

underestimating a group like Anonymous is foolish. your friend the cyberspecialist, fails to see and consider the implications of what this group can do.

If they ever target Wall Street's computers and servers, and succeed, think of the ****ing chaos they could throw this country in. They could shut down the entire country's financial sector just like they did Sony's Playstation Network. I'm surprised they haven't targeted Wall Street, Oil Speculators and Oil Companies yet.

they could bring this country's transportation to a halt by hitting all the airline sites, greyhound sites, train sites.

if you really think they are that good you have way to little faith in the cyber security guys that run the networks....every key stroke made is logged in computers around the world from the various gov't i am sure...Imagine if they were a real threat how easily they would disappear and their livs wrecked. in a digital age it merely takes a keystroke to end someone. I can promise you hackers have tried to crack oil companies and wall street, but these rag tag groups don't have the man power or capabilities to touch either esp the oil companies...who could make them vanish from existence and im sure some have.

The chinese grad exam you have to hack a us gov't computer...and show proof that you did it. they get caught a lot...The best hackers i know of are still the russians...they are good enough to get in get out before the firewalls even know there was a breach and repair the hole they came through and all this before any security measure knows where it was attack by who and how...

 

[WireEater]

Sounds like your friend is trying to put his job on a pedestal. If these people were child's play, he wouldn't have a job, that simple. With the right resources and people, anything can be taking down to it's knees.

Just read up on Stuxnet.

 

[LOLasaurus]

Don't take this the wrong way guys but ya'll don't strike me as the most computer savvy bunch.

That is where the problem starts, with a lack of information. When sony got hacked it wasn't because some elite group of super hackers found the one hidden weak point in sonys network. The problem was documented a long time before they got hacked. Sony didn't do anything to fix the problem probably because they didn't understand the severity of what could happen. When the IT guys told the office bigwigs about the problem it probably went something like this

IT guy "Well your SQL databases are completely exposed to DDoS attack and that would HTTP IPv6 your FTP and then would ASCII your SATA. You need to RAID 1 your LAN and that will cost about $10,000."

What the office bigshot heard was "We need more money"

These guys, while skilled, are using tried and true methods against networks running outdated software. There are some extremely talented guys out there.

Theres the guy that hacked blu-ray like a week after sony got done saying it was hack proof.Theres the guy that created a mutating virus that infected half the worlds computers and then proceeded to do nothing. theres whoever created stuxnet!

But the majority of the "hacks" you hear about and just people taking advantage of known exploits.

 

[virginiafiveo]

Don't take this the wrong way guys but ya'll don't strike me as the most computer savvy bunch.

That is where the problem starts, with a lack of information. When sony got hacked it wasn't because some elite group of super hackers found the one hidden weak point in sonys network. The problem was documented a long time before they got hacked. Sony didn't do anything to fix the problem probably because they didn't understand the severity of what could happen. When the IT guys told the office bigwigs about the problem it probably went something like this

IT guy "Well your SQL databases are completely exposed to DDoS attack and that would HTTP IPv6 your FTP and then would ASCII your SATA. You need to RAID 1 your LAN and that will cost about $10,000."

What the office bigshot heard was "We need more money"

These guys, while skilled, are using tried and true methods against networks running outdated software. There are some extremely talented guys out there.

Theres the guy that hacked blu-ray like a week after sony got done saying it was hack proof.Theres the guy that created a mutating virus that infected half the worlds computers and then proceeded to do nothing. theres whoever created stuxnet!

But the majority of the "hacks" you hear about and just people taking advantage of known exploits.

and your profession is? :shrug:

btw, for the people who don't speak geek, almost none of that quote makes any sense at all, but he is accurate about the wigs not understanding or caring about the problem, only the money involved in fixing it.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

They will be found eventually.

 

[N2DAMYSTIC]

Waits for the movie; Anonymous

 

[moddestmike]

Most of them get arrested, turn informants and are released back into the community to help the FBI. That's how it works usually and thats more than likely how they caught those 16 individuals. If you recall, there was a British teen arrested initially and all he was responsible for was hosting proxy servers and secure chats for them. He probably folded and gave up the info. Cross-site hacking, Orkut scripting and all the nonsense is usually how they work. If I not mistaken, in the case of Citibank it was merely a case of transposing some numbers/hashes in an extended URL that allowed them to access customer data. Sites with poor security are compromised by injecting scripting into urls in most cases. Not just that plain and simple but in summation that's how it works for the most part. Other are Denial of Service attacks, basically flooding the sight with requests until it collapses.

 

[ChiSVT]

I hope they all get caught for being idiots. Maybe only then will they get the attention they're glamoring for.

 

[Satyr]

Most of them get arrested, turn informants and are released back into the community to help the FBI. That's how it works usually and thats more than likely how they caught those 16 individuals. If you recall, there was a British teen arrested initially and all he was responsible for was hosting proxy servers and secure chats for them. He probably folded and gave up the info. Cross-site hacking, Orkut scripting and all the nonsense is usually how they work. If I not mistaken, in the case of Citibank it was merely a case of transposing some numbers/hashes in an extended URL that allowed them to access customer data. Sites with poor security are compromised by injecting scripting into urls in most cases. Not just that plain and simple but in summation that's how it works for the most part. Other are Denial of Service attacks, basically flooding the sight with requests until it collapses.

DDoS attacks aren't very difficult to accomplish for the average user, either. You can find trojans pretty easily and can end up controlling many systems that way; at that point, it's not a whole lot more than writing a script that calls the same IP over and over from each computer, and then have them all repeat simultaneously. This, of course, becomes more difficult with redundant servers and with some of the systems that filter/block repeat IP connection attempts within certain timeframes.

I know that some computer kids in my school crashed our online homework server by doing this with like 5-6 computers. It was a single server computer and was very rudimentary, but it took place nonetheless.

 

[bluebosss197]

NATO networks were purportedly compromised

'Anonymous' Hackers Claim to Breach NATO Security - FoxNews.com