Well, I've had the car going on four years. I'm not a fan of thin spokes. The closest I came to a wheel I liked was a CS69. I've had them in three different finishes. I've seen True Forged mentioned in magazines, then in this forum. Curious, I went to their website. Lo and behold, there in the lower right hand corner of the showroom was the Retro. I called Steve (member/vendor Steve@TF) and voila! They were mine.