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Chrysler has been arguing that this test was faked, and they overloaded it with weight to produce the results.... Obviously they are full of shit


I must say I laughed when the tire popped off the bead. Although Chrysler needs to get their shit together and fix this before we have another explorer roll over scare ending with Uhaul not allowing anyone with a grand cherokee to rent a trailer :dw:

So you must have a lot of vehicle dynamics test experience then, right? Since you know they're full of shit.

I haven't seen the actual video, but I suspect it's the NATO lane change test. I worked in impact testing at Chrysler for almost ten years and I've never heard of the "moose test"...but the NATO lane change is run by vehicle dynamics/vehicle development.

Anyway, you don't sell vehicles if you don't pass the test. Simple.

Not sure who the third party test facility is either...but without knowing all the facts, I'd hesitate to comment that anyone is full of anything.
 

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So you must have a lot of vehicle dynamics test experience then, right? Since you know they're full of shit.

I haven't seen the actual video, but I suspect it's the NATO lane change test. I worked in impact testing at Chrysler for almost ten years and I've never heard of the "moose test"...but the NATO lane change is run by vehicle dynamics/vehicle development.

Anyway, you don't sell vehicles if you don't pass the test. Simple.

Not sure who the third party test facility is either...but without knowing all the facts, I'd hesitate to comment that anyone is full of anything.

Watch the video. Even if it was faked, I'd say the car has issues that need to be addressed. How many people buying this car ever even look at maximum payload? How many people buying these ever check their tire pressure? You better believe there are cars like this driving around overloaded with under-inflated tires. Especially in this country were the vast majority of drivers aren't concerned with driving period.

So even if they overloaded the car and under-inflated the tires, it still doesn't perform well in an emergency maneuver. That's very apparent.

For a major manufacturer to simply dismiss it is also worrying. Again, even if the car was overloaded yada yada, it warrants taking a look at why the vehicle is behaving in such a manor.
 

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Watch the video. Even if it was faked, I'd say the car has issues that need to be addressed. How many people buying this car ever even look at maximum payload? How many people buying these ever check their tire pressure? You better believe there are cars like this driving around overloaded with under-inflated tires. Especially in this country were the vast majority of drivers aren't concerned with driving period.

So even if they overloaded the car and under-inflated the tires, it still doesn't perform well in an emergency maneuver. That's very apparent.

For a major manufacturer to simply dismiss it is also worrying. Again, even if the car was overloaded yada yada, it warrants taking a look at why the vehicle is behaving in such a manor.

I'm calling the :bs: flag on the video. They seem to be the only one that has exposed this "problem" yet this jeep has been out for a while now.

Back to teh funny
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I'm calling the :bs: flag on the video. They seem to be the only one that has exposed this "problem" yet this jeep has been out for a while now.

Back to teh funny
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It's my understanding that we don't test roll over avoidance in the states. We test things like crash worthiness and roof strength in the event of a roll-over. Even then, much of that is IIHS testing which manufacturers are in no way obligated to meet.

I found this from the NHTSA which states that they will use the "static stability factor" which is a stationary calculation. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards: Rollover Resistance Notice So as long as manufacturers meet this stationary test, they are within compliance.

It doesn't look like we actually test rollover avoidance in the manor that some European nations do, by actually subjecting the vehicle to an emergency avoidance test.

Again I'd state that even if the test was faked, it's still concerning how that vehicle handled.

This is probably deserving of a separate topic outside of this thread, so...back to the funny!
 

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An SUV that almost rolls over when being whipped back and forth at over 60mph... What's the story; better question, where's the funny?
 

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