Do you have a source for this? Haven't been able to find much on this, unless it's about the fact that they should be able to now that this policy exists.
NYPD changes policy, will allow officers to wear turbans
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Do you have a source for this? Haven't been able to find much on this, unless it's about the fact that they should be able to now that this policy exists.
It's a valid argument.
And yet they don't all look the same.
You really don't grasp what a uniform is or its actual purpose.
http://forward.com/news/212852/inside-the-heads-hearts-and-yarmulkes-of-jewish-co/
"Rabbi Gary Moskowitz served on the New York City Police Department for nearly a decade, during which he worked as an undercover narcotics cop and patrolled Times Square. Still, he says that many people could never fully grasp the idea of a Jewish police officer.
Moskowitz remembers chasing down a mugger near Columbus Circle in Manhattan and wrestling him to the ground. A passerby did a double-take when he saw Moskowitz, an observant Jew who wears a skull cap, handcuffing the thief.
“What is that? What are you wearing on your head?” Moskowitz remembered the passerby asking. “This?” Moskowitz asked, pointing to his yarmulke. “It’s the new summer police uniform,” Moskowitz deadpanned. “No, of course,” he said after a beat, “it’s a yarmulke.”"
Rabbi Gary Moskowitz is also a 7th degree black belt in both Juijitsu and Karate.
http://www.wheel-life.org/rabbi-sen...s-therapy-gives-you-physical-mental-strength/
There are around 3,000 jewish police officers on the NYPD. That's around 9% of the entire force.
Naturally this didn't happen overnight.
It is also possible that other Sikhs may want to join the force now that these officers have been hired.
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I've got no problem with it and I fully support it.
Sikhs do not wear a turban to make a political statement. They wear it as a part of their faith. Sikhs are pretty darn good people too. They'll give you the shirt off their back, literally, and are required to stand up for those who cannot do so themselves.
Wearing a cross is not a religious requirement of the Christian faith, but a turban or a yarmulke are both requirements of those faiths.
As a Christian, and an American, I support the NYPD in this move. Considering the awful things that the department has been known for over the last century, this is reassuring that eventually they'll better understand the whole "serve the public trust" portion of law enforcement.
Sikhs do not wear a turban to make a political statement. They wear it as a part of their faith. Sikhs are pretty darn good people too. They'll give you the shirt off their back, literally, and are required to stand up for those who cannot do so themselves.
Wearing a cross is not a religious requirement of the Christian faith, but a turban or a yarmulke are both requirements of those faiths.
As a Christian, and an American, I support the NYPD in this move. Considering the awful things that the department has been known for over the last century, this is reassuring that eventually they'll better understand the whole "serve the public trust" portion of law enforcement.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uniform
Please read the above definition and explain how my opinion varies from it.
The standards need to be upheld. Have you looked at departments who, standards have been less? Ie Chicago, NYPD, LAPD. There are many more who receive federal funding and are required by the gov. To loosen the standards.
If you continue to chop away at standards you will be left with very few. Then everyone will cry about those and we will have none.
It has nothing to do with them personally. I'm sure they are fine people.
Can you highlight the part that says inability to allow turbans be worn?
Why is a stocking cap okay but a turban is not?
What standard? Who's standard?
Uniforms are not unmoving sacred articles of attire. They have many designs and functions. For police it's so the public can readily identify them as an Official Government Police Officer, and provide them an entire that allows them to conduct the work at task.
In no way shape or form does a Turban prevent that. Some officers wear campaign caps, some stocking hats, some baseball caps, some trapper hats and now some can wear turbans.
As stated, a police officers job is to work with the community, protect the community and serve the community. How can you protect and serve a Sikh community when you refuse to let them be members of the police force or respect their valid traditions.
Not everyone in this world is an agnostic non-practicing Christian.
What imaginary standard are you talking about?
This isn't China where our Government forces us to be atheists because the one true god and religion is the People's Party.
Going back to my Gay-Beret statements that you continue to ignore...
The Army had a long tradition of headgear until 2001 when Eric Shinseki thought it would be totally fierce if everyone had pansy Berets and pretended to be in the French/Royal special forces.
Where is your outrage of destroying tradition and standards to accommodate one mans sense of fashion? How do you feel about spitting on the thousands of warriors who actually had to earn berets by serving in the special forces?
Uniforms change. Turbans will eventually get authorized in the US Armed Services. Get over it.
By his standard women shouldn't even serve since they can't meet the physical requirements of men and we had to erode the standards for them.
Only drunk Irishmen should be cops.
Apparently the US Army already allows Turbans.
Apparently the US Army already allows Turbans.
Those photos are old I believe, when I went through basic they even allowed the UCP yamehkas or however you spell that word. I do believe they are still at commanders discretion if they are allowed to use them.
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