it has to be a convertible loaded up. Stripes are not an option.VenomousSVT said:
shelbys are in!
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You guys are in la-la land.
The GT500 is barely as quick as a Base C6.
Gt500 =12.9 vs C6= 12.8 (Car and Driver Heads up test, with the same drivers, on the same sday, on the same track).
Sure, a modded 600 rwhp GT500 might pull on a stock C6-ZO6. So what?
Think about that..
600 to the wheels...
Thats about what it will take.. I dont think that kind of power is a pulley and exhaust away on the GT500.. and you will eat parts with that kind of power.. That kind of power hardly makes for a reliable street car.
The GT500 is barely as quick as a Base C6.
Gt500 =12.9 vs C6= 12.8 (Car and Driver Heads up test, with the same drivers, on the same sday, on the same track).
Sure, a modded 600 rwhp GT500 might pull on a stock C6-ZO6. So what?
Think about that..
600 to the wheels...
Thats about what it will take.. I dont think that kind of power is a pulley and exhaust away on the GT500.. and you will eat parts with that kind of power.. That kind of power hardly makes for a reliable street car.
hp freak thanks for the update! Let me know when you see a red/white coupe heading for San Diego. Thanks
Purvis said:
thx for the update but when comparing cars why not use the best times from the best drivers for both cars because mmff drove the car to 12.2x :rockon:
so basically go eat a dick
actually it should take about 563rwhp from the shelby to equal a stock 450rwhp Z06. A bolt on/pulley shelby should be a good match for a stock Z. A blower upgrade will be necessary for the modded Z's.Purvis said:
here are some power to weight #'s that I pulled out of a post of mine on socalterminators.com
3664/390 = 9.39 lbs per HP 03-04 cobra coupe rated HP
3780/390 = 9.69 lbs per HP 03-04 cobra vert rated HP
3920/500 = 7.84 lbs per HP 07-?? shelby coupe rated HP
4040/500 = 8.08 lbs per HP 07-?? shelby vert rated HP
3664/425 = 8.62 lbs per HP 03-04 cobra coupe actual HP (360rwhp)
3780/425 = 8.89 lbs per HP 03-04 cobra vert actual HP (360rwhp)
3920/529 = 7.41 lbs per HP 07-?? shelby coupe (based on Jay O'Connell saying 450-460rwhp, using 450rwhp)
4040/529 = 7.63 lbs per HP 07-?? shelby vert (450rwhp)
3664/494 = 7.41 lbs per HP 03-04 cobra coupe (420rwhp)
3130/505 = 6.20 lbs per HP 06-?? Z06 rated HP
3130/529 = 5.91 lbs per HP 06-?? Z06 average rwhp per the vette forums(450rwhp)
3179/400 = 7.91 lbs per HP 05-?? C6 coupe rated HP
3920/662 = 5.91 lbs per HP 06-?? shelby coupe (563rwhp)
3664/620 = 5.91 lbs per HP 03-04 cobra coupe (527rwhp)
of course none of this take in to count gearing, aero, etc...but then again, how much does aero effect anything under 100 mph, and all cars have fairly long gears...a gear swap in any of them should prove to be a good advantage.
dgussin1 said:
you are on it dead nuts! We have a larve variety of cars that run with our group. We raced a H/C/I c5 making around 450hp with a 535rwhp terminator. The outcome was very surprising. The vette lost by around a fender, thats it. The gt500 making 500 rwhp will be no match for a c6z06 making 500 rwhp
Your logic makes alot of sense.. :rollseyeschuckstang said:
Lets compare different drivers on different days at different tracks..
Instead of using a controlled test with the same drivers, at the same track on the same day..
Yes very logical.. :bash:
As I said..
la-la land.
Its all relative. Even Smith, who went 12.25 in the GT500, still went considebly faster (11.9) in a C5ZO6. My guess is a base C6 with Evan driving, would probably come in right around the same amount faster as it did in Car and Driver.
And drivers comparable to Evan's talent have driven the C6ZO6 (11.2's) very close to high 10's..
Its all relative.. Thats why tests that occur on the same day with the same drivers, are important..
Im not hating on thecar..I may buy one. I just think its amusing you guys are comparing the GT500 to the ZO6, when the car isnt even as fast (it seems to be around the same) as the base C6, acceleration wise.
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Purvis said:
it because everyone is hung up on the numbers alone. Not many of us are relating the numbers to the real world. The gt500 is a nice car but the c6z06 is practically an exotic now-a-days. On a side note there are alot of the "z06 is made from the rib of the lord himself" people out there too. There are as many people that think the c6Z06 is god as there are closeminded mustang enthusiasts. Is the gt500 one of the baddest mustangs ever made? IMHO yes it is. Its still ugly but there hasnt been a stock mustang that has ever compared to it.
gt500 = :rockon:
C6 Z06 = :rockon:
power to weight is the name of the game. Like I said aero doesnt really affect what we do under 100-130mph. Gearing makes a difference, but all of these cars have similar gearing from the factory. It's a much easier and far less expensive job ($450 vs $1000+) to do gears in a mustang vs a vette, so that is also a factor when changing up.VenomousSVT said:
Christ, Here We Go Again! Just when it seemed safe to go back out and Play!! :bash:
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97BlackCobra
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Hey guys!
Just saw my first Shelby! It came out of nowhere. Was at my bank, looked up and there was red/with white stripes 07 Shelby driving past. Very strange to see a car like that in my small town. I hope to see her again! Very nice..
J
Just saw my first Shelby! It came out of nowhere. Was at my bank, looked up and there was red/with white stripes 07 Shelby driving past. Very strange to see a car like that in my small town. I hope to see her again! Very nice..
J
Quit with the import logic, the more im here the more I think I'm on Honda tech "Put 5 thousand into a gt500 and it'll beat a c6" SHUT UPPPPPP YOU MORON!! You can mod any car to be faster than another, it's a matter of how far you want to go. You guys like the gt500, It has 500hp, It's fords flagship, quit complaining. You got your fricken solid rear axel for Petes sakes so be happy. If yall don't stop nagging ill convince ford to go IRS in the back and relocate the shifter position like on the 03s JK )
As for the people you keep reapeating "mm&ff got 12.2 take that chebby" just do us all a favor and duct tape your hands so you dont make incoherent interjections any more. If you go on a corvette site you'll find that z51 c6s can break into the 11s in the hands of a professional driver. The closest thing as to a controlled experiment was car and driver beacuse the same guy drove both cars so his ability to drive or lack there of was reflected apon each car's performance and we all know the out come.
Most of you guys really need an attitude adjustment, quit being so competitive amoung other car manufacturers. Buy this car because you like it, not because you want to beat your neighbors vette or mod it to embarass to local z06/viper. Its not like your dick will grow any each time you beat a car.
just my .02op:
)As for the people you keep reapeating "mm&ff got 12.2 take that chebby" just do us all a favor and duct tape your hands so you dont make incoherent interjections any more. If you go on a corvette site you'll find that z51 c6s can break into the 11s in the hands of a professional driver. The closest thing as to a controlled experiment was car and driver beacuse the same guy drove both cars so his ability to drive or lack there of was reflected apon each car's performance and we all know the out come.
Most of you guys really need an attitude adjustment, quit being so competitive amoung other car manufacturers. Buy this car because you like it, not because you want to beat your neighbors vette or mod it to embarass to local z06/viper. Its not like your dick will grow any each time you beat a car.
just my .02
op:
I love both cars lol.
But umm I cant wait to see a Gt-500.
But umm I cant wait to see a Gt-500.
This is hilarious. This car was delivered damaged because the driver almost ripped the front spoiler off taking it off the truck. I hope the buyer who paid 30k over msrp enjoys his Shelby. It's only been hit once.
kloogy said:This is hilarious. This car was delivered damaged because the driver almost ripped the front spoiler off taking it off the truck. I hope the buyer who paid 30k over msrp enjoys his Shelby. It's only been hit once.
What is hilarious about it? :shrug:
there are 3 red in white coupes in the yard now not sure if they are going to diego.i took some pics today if someone can post them for me that would be cool. pm me ... ;-)COBRA CRUIZER said:
have you taken any cars to galpin?
that stuff happens dude.. ive been delivering cars for years now and the trucks have steep angles on them and the cars like shelbys,sl65s and srts are getting lower and lower and im sorry they get damaged but they are repaired before theire sold and anything over5k can not be sold as new...thats what my claims people tell me anyway.kloogy said:This is hilarious. This car was delivered damaged because the driver almost ripped the front spoiler off taking it off the truck. I hope the buyer who paid 30k over msrp enjoys his Shelby. It's only been hit once.
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