WAY too much money for what that is.
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SA Range Officer Compact
I use a 7 round flush fit mag so it’s 7+1 instead if 6+1 shoots great
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Why not buy a $650-$700 Springfield milspec and spend the rest on ammo? It's a range toy. I see no need to spend a fortune on something superior. This comes from someone who spent well over 2k for a Daniel Defense "build a rifle" and accepts a cheap m&p 15 would serve me just as well. But i admit i didnt need such an expensive gun nor did i need to get other's opinions to justify me spending a very excessive amount of money. Come to think of it, i did. But i only listened to who agreed with me. Go figure.
All the fancy mods and stuff doesnt make your shoot better.
All the fancy mods and stuff doesnt make your shoot better.
If for only punching holes in static targets, agreed. If for anything more here's my $.02.
Plus side on the Mil Spec- price. The downside - the old style duck bill grip safety, and GI style sights. I had an older Colt Government outfitted like the SA Mil Spec, and if you are trying to do anything at all more than punch holes in static targets, the reloads are slower, recoil management impacted by the old duck bill grip safety which keeps your grip lower, and target acquisition slower due to the old GI style sights.
I spent around $600 and did half the fitting/smithing myself just to fit an upswept beavertail which allows for higher grip and better recoil management, as well as easier reloads (on the clock), better thumb safety to park your strong side thumb for recoil management, and having the slide milled for Novak cuts for better sights to improve target acquisition.
It's a different gun now.
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OP just wants a range toy. Not something to save his life or compete. I really dont see a down side. a benefit of a lower tier pistol is he can see what he likes or doesnt like. He may grow not to even like spring field nor the 1911 platform which would be odd.
I may be a hyprocite myself and buy a Ranger Officer instead if it were me.
I know it's not your top of the line, big shiny 1911, but my Ruger SR1911 has been great. I've had it for 7 years now.
Fair point.
Right now, I've got over 1,000+ rounds of .45 and about 300-400 rounds of 9MM for my Sig.
I have considering the Mil-Spec in stainless, but, one thing I don't like is the thinner/flatter beaver tail safety. I have larger hands and when I gripped one, I always felt like it was pinching the meat on my hand and much harder to depress. The Range officer IIRC has a larger beaver tail safety, along with the Loaded and TRP models. This is a huge plus for me.
I bring my wife to the range and we both like to shoot, and some guns are easier and funner to shoot with. We've probably fired over a couple of dozen of different guns, excluding the three we have, and only a handful we actually liked. Sure, grips, sights and all that can be changed. But, at a cost.
Depending on the gun, I'd carry the 1911 and rotate that out with my P938. Primarily would be a fun-to-shoot gun at the range, but, would also serve as a defense weapon occasionally.
As far as doing the work myself, I can do basic field strips, past that, as far as deep cleans, removing firing pins, etc. I won't do that. Let alone any smithing, swapping out sights, etc. Grips, I can change, that's just a couple of bolts/screws, hahaha.
Competing would be fun and I've thought about it. I've never had formal training, but, I love to shoot and many people have said my 3-4 inch groupings at 15 yards or so is decent. I am also thinking long term when buying something expensive so if I decide to change up the reasoning for owning it, albeit competition, defense, etc, the option is there and I don't have to modify anything.
Been looking at the Ruger, definitely a stout firearm.
Thanks guys!
I agree on the No Kimber reply here, I have a Stainless II and it is a huge PITA, can't figure out what the issue is. Shell casing constantly gets caught in the slide, or the gun wants to double feed & jam. I've opened it up, took a small burr off near the ejector pin, and it still does it. For now, its a pretty expensive paper weight that looks pretty.
Following Klaus' recommendation I picked up a Dan Wesson. I got the Specialist model because I wanted a rail (not carrying this gun, I carry a 938 like you). It's an amazing gun. Retail is $1700 but I got it for $1300. You can find them in your price range if you're patient.
For a ~$1k 1911 I really enjoy my Sig Sauer "Nightmare" -carry
I've run lots of rounds through it using Sig and Wilson magazines and have yet to have a ftl or fte since I bought it in late '15. I've been running sig and fancy federal rounds through her along with the no name fmj range specials. The gun is balanced and the bobtail minimised imprinting.
It looks as good as it shoots. You're not going to be as accurate grouping as $5k WC, but with 45acp... close enough counts.
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I've run lots of rounds through it using Sig and Wilson magazines and have yet to have a ftl or fte since I bought it in late '15. I've been running sig and fancy federal rounds through her along with the no name fmj range specials. The gun is balanced and the bobtail minimised imprinting.
It looks as good as it shoots. You're not going to be as accurate grouping as $5k WC, but with 45acp... close enough counts.
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I'll bet a significant amount of money that your Sig is just as accurate as a Wilson Combat. Unlike rifles there isn't a lot if accuracy to be found in a decent 1911 vs a high dollar 1911.
I’ve got a Sig 1911 Tac-Ops just like this one. It came with skeletonized trigger and hammer, sig lite sights, rail, and magwell. It has been a great one. I paid just over $1000 for it new.
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Smith and Wesson guns are real nice. Right on the edge of the price range.
Smith & Wesson Performance Center 1911 Custom .45 ACP 5" SS Throated Barrel G10 Custom Grip - Impact Guns
Not 1911 and not stainless. Still fantastic.
Sig Sauer P220 SAO Legion Series .45ACP Pistol-Legion
Smith & Wesson Performance Center 1911 Custom .45 ACP 5" SS Throated Barrel G10 Custom Grip - Impact Guns
Not 1911 and not stainless. Still fantastic.
Sig Sauer P220 SAO Legion Series .45ACP Pistol-Legion
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Do you say that because it feels true? Because I can assure you that there is a HUGE difference in 1911s. Much greater than in bolt action rifles in fact. And I am speaking from experience.
Also, 1911s do not have external extractors. Sorry Sig and S&W. Speaking from a purists perspective, if god and JMB wanted an external extractor he would have designed it as such.
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JMB put an external extractor on the High Power. The High Power was one of his last guns.
I used to feel the same way but the guns I have with external extractors have been very good
I am not against external extractors just not on 1911s. I am a purest though. 7/8 shot revolvers are the same, maybe a better design but still prefer a 6 shot.
I like that one! I have a S&W Performance Center Shield 9mm. I like it, but I like my HK VP9SK a lot more. I've never owned a 1911, but might pull the trigger since I have 2 nice gift certificates for my local gun shop/range. I've been waiting to decide what I really want.
Careful Bob, once you get into 1911's you might get hooked!
If you look back at my previous post I denounced external extractors too. I agree 100% with you there.
Yes, I speak from experience. At 10 yards firing a handgun the way it's meant to be fired there is absolutely no difference in accuracy between a $1,000 Colt and a $5,000 Wilson Combat. None. 20 years ago there was a huge difference but these days there simply isn't, especially considering many firearms have the option of match barrels from the factory. A shooting door did a barrel and brand test a number of years ago at 50 yards and found a 1/4" difference between brands and barrels. At shorter range there was absolutely no difference. Even they said the high dollar 1911s didnt see any appreciable difference.
The bottom line is that Wilson Combat is so over priced it's ridiculous. Buy a good 1911, send it out to a gunsmith and you'll have a better firearm for half the price.
If someone is concerned about hair differences in a shooting lane while controlling their breathing and taking forever to line up each individual shot on a statuc piece of paper with a handgun they need to reevaluate how they're using it anyway.
Here’s one of my my competition guns, for single stack USPSA
KKM match barrel
EGW fire control and Infinity parts on tri top slide.
Cobra Tripp 10 round mags and “custom” followers
Tool less guide rod
AFTEC extractor
Wilson Ambi safety
KKM match barrel
EGW fire control and Infinity parts on tri top slide.
Cobra Tripp 10 round mags and “custom” followers
Tool less guide rod
AFTEC extractor
Wilson Ambi safety
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