Supercharged 5.2 discussion

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Isn't the Roush 2650 supercharger kit that Ford Performance offers for the 18/19 Mustang compatible with the dual fuel injection system? Is the 5.0 that much different than the 5.2?
 

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I'm thinking that insurance is the hold up on the 5.2 hp numbers . We know vmp made 1000 horse on just the 5.0. Cant tell me Ford is scared that 5.2 will break with more boost. I know we have octane limitations on pump gas, but imagine if insurance companies saw 900hp on the window sticker?
 

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I'm starting to believe that leaked document. Everything has been right on it. I'm thinking it was 720 HP about 6 months ago, and they have been trying to get more out of it. I was rather excited when I heard some statements the other day but the more I think about it, the more I see 730 or 740.
 

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Changing my prediction, I'm going to believe that 10.89 at 133 mph, and using a weight and mph calculator, I'm gonna say 780 is the current HP. I'm wondering how much more can be squeezed out of it? probably not much. A set of DRs should really pick up the time.
 

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Changing my prediction, I'm going to believe that 10.89 at 133 mph, and using a weight and mph calculator, I'm gonna say 780 is the current HP. I'm wondering how much more can be squeezed out of it? probably not much. A set of DRs should really pick up the time.

What weight are you using? I've seen numbers anywhere from 3900 to 4200. Hard to believe it will start with a 3 given the bigger brakes, the blower and intercooler, etc.
 

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I'm being optimistic that the car and driver will weigh 4300 lbs. If we gather the weight from dbk at no less than 4100 for the base car. I'll say 4150 plus a small driver, 150 lbs. I didn't even count the fuel. I just rounded it to 4300.
 

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I’ve also heard 12psi and the reality is, if its 4000# and that’s all the boost they can get to meet Ford and EPA regs, physics still wins.
Still, if you’ve paid attention to the Coyote aftermarket, the 5.2/2650 combo can easily support 1000hp.
The 5.8 GT500 ran 14-15psi, so I’m still hoping the can find 2-3# before final calibration.
I’d assume at least 30hp/pound boost so if the 720hp/12psi is true, I’d hope 810/15 and really do this thing right :)
-J
 

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I’ve also heard 12psi and the reality is, if its 4000# and that’s all the boost they can get to meet Ford and EPA regs, physics still wins.
Still, if you’ve paid attention to the Coyote aftermarket, the 5.2/2650 combo can easily support 1000hp.
The 5.8 GT500 ran 14-15psi, so I’m still hoping the can find 2-3# before final calibration.
I’d assume at least 30hp/pound boost so if the 720hp/12psi is true, I’d hope 810/15 and really do this thing right :)
-J
Haha, that would be nice man, heck I'd be happy with 780:)
 

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One thing to note is a dct can shift faster than an auto. Most calculators aren’t quite right for dct cars.

Case in point, a Ford gt is 3400lbs and 640hp. I just used a Wallace racing calculator and it found the peak performance would be 10.16@132 with 3 shifts

Car and driver went 10.8@134 iirc

To put the perspective in place, the gt500 is basically as fast in the 1/4 mile as the Ford GT. 10.8@133 vs 10.8@134

It’s hard to believe but given the right conditions, this 4200lbs car probably won’t be far off the pace of a 3400lbs Le Mans winner at a circuit like MRLS.

I’d guess 1:31/2 for a GT, 1:33 for a gt500 and 1:34 for a 1le zl1 and about 11 seconds later a demon.

That demon has 1 second at the strip though. Just don’t do any freeway pulls past 165. Demon has the win from 0-165, if it’s on race gas, seats pulled and on slicks, but then it’s 20 seconds behind at MLRS.
 
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From my understanding 10.8 at 133 is real world numbers, not 1k feet of vht with - da. Meaning on a great night a great driver should go low 10’s stock.

I think the c7z is hitting 10.4 at 133 stock. I think this is exactly where the GT500 will fall with the right driver/night/track.
 

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A twin turbo combo with dual injection and a 10r80 would have been glorious :)
-J

Fixed it for you and yes... it’s extremely glorious!! Lol.


On topic:

My predictions. Car will weigh ~4200 lbs.
Mild bolt ons will have the car near 800whp. By mild bolt ons I mean upper pulley, larger TB, and opened up exhaust.

Coyote cars with the 2650 are beasts.

We already have tons of intel on this set up and it kicks ass!


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im praying it comes in at 39xx no driver. i really really dont like performance cars being that heavy. dct is ,uch harder to launch, so i dont expect a stock tire/stock car to do "spectacular" but 10.8 stock and low 10's on a tire is perfect. from a roll on the highway, that dct will show its true potential. I just saw the IROZ TTRS with dct do a rolling antilag hit from 40mph and shit was fast. car is fast, but dct is all forward momentum. its going to make a difference once rollin
 

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im praying it comes in at 39xx no driver. i really really dont like performance cars being that heavy. dct is ,uch harder to launch, so i dont expect a stock tire/stock car to do "spectacular" but 10.8 stock and low 10's on a tire is perfect. from a roll on the highway, that dct will show its true potential. I just saw the IROZ TTRS with dct do a rolling antilag hit from 40mph and shit was fast. car is fast, but dct is all forward momentum. its going to make a difference once rollin

It wont.
 

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and you can verify this? or just regurgitating other opinions as fact? serious question
 

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