Same with the Hellcats before they came out. They said more than 600HP.More than 400hp. GT500 was more than 700hp and it turned into 760hp.
Same with the Hellcats before they came out. They said more than 600HP.More than 400hp. GT500 was more than 700hp and it turned into 760hp.
Man...unfortunately, I have a ridicilous line for one. I won't even be able to deliver to all of them.
I can see Ford making <2500 of them.
Yes, Warthog is the program name and Bronco Raptor is the product name. No third truck. the Bronco DR is a Multimatic project.I will say 1 thing I'm even confused is....is this the "warthog"?
Was that just the project name for the raptor or D/R... or will there be a 3rd variant?
Nice article, Sid, but I winced a bit when I read the thread title, "The 2022 Bronco Raptor is Here". That's what Ford does all the time. It's NOT really here. It's coming. Unfortunately It won't be here until some time in 2023. But God only know WHEN it will actually launch and when it will actually show up at dealerships.
Overall, the Bronco Raptor is really nice. Great engine choice. Horrible fender flairs. I do wish there was a 2-door Bronco Raptor.
Here's an interesting R&T comparison between the Bronco Raptor and the Jeep Wrangler 392. Pick your poison. Of course, the Bronco Raptor will be a bit late to the game, but eventually it will arrive to butt heads with the Jeep.
Comparing the Ford Bronco Raptor and Jeep Wrangler 392
This crosstown rivalry has never been hotter.
BY LUCAS BELL
JAN 24, 2022
With the debut of the all-new Ford Bronco Raptor (go ahead and call it the "Braptor"), the battle for off-road supremacy has never been hotter. Bred from the same Baja-inspired thinking as the F-150 Raptor, the Braptor brings significantly more capability to the table than its regular production counterparts. The same thing can be said about the Jeep Wrangler 392, which is clearly the new Raptor’s main competitor. How do these two off-roaders stack up?
Ford Performance's mission for the Bronco Raptor was to build an Ultra4-inspired off-roader you can use for Walmart runs. In order to achieve that level of performance, balanced with a commuter's practicality, Ford Performance started from the ground up. The Braptor receives a new fully boxed frame constructed from high-strength steel, complete with modified shock towers for improved durability and increased wheel travel. The SUV packs the Raptor HOSS 4.0 system, which includes Fox’s 3.1 Internal Bypass Semi-Active Dampers.
Combined with a set of unique control arms, the SUV offers 13 inches of wheel travel up front and an impressive 14 inches out back. Those figures represent gains of 60 percent and 40 percent travel over the base Bronco, respectively. The truck also features a minimum ground clearance of 13.1 inches. The Wrangler 392 features upgraded frame rails as well, complemented by a 2-inch factory lift kit, FOX aluminum monotube shocks, and unique suspension geometry. That helps the SUV achieve 10.3 inches of ground clearance with improved suspension articulation.
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While the Wrangler 392 lags a little behind in the ground clearance category, it's partially due to the shoes each truck wears. The Bronco Raptor rides on a set of 17-inch x 8.5-inch beadlock-capable wheels, which come wrapped in 37-inch BF Goodrich KO2s. The 392 on the other hand comes with a set of 17-inch beadlock-capable wheels, but it rocks a set of 33-inch rubber. Customers do have the option to spec the Xtreme Recon Package, which fits the Jeep with 35-inch tires from the factory.
Of course the bits above the wheels and tires are also crucial to off-road performance. The Wrangler 392 uses a full-time four-wheel drive system bolstered by a Selec-Trac two-speed transfer case, combined with the Dana 44 axles and locking differentials at both ends.
The Bronco Raptor, on the other hand, leans into Ford’s off-road racing remit. The SUV features the same axles as the Bronco DR racer, with a Dana 44 up front and a semi-float Dana 50 solid axle out back. These axles push the SUV’s track width out by 8.6 inches over the regular SUV, which helps explain the 9.8-inches of added width overall. Upgraded electronic locking differentials sit at both ends as well. The Bronco also features an impressive crawl ratio of 67.7:1, compared to the Jeep’s 48:1 ratio. Then again, the Wrangler’s powertrain is surely capable of making up that difference.
Under the hood of the Wrangler 392 sits the familiar 6.4-liter Apache V-8 engine. In Wrangler spec the engine is good for 470 horsepower and 470 lb-ft, which allows the SUV to rip off a 0-60 mph run in just 4.5 seconds. While that’s not Urus-rivaling speed, the figure is mighty impressive next to other dedicated off-roaders. It also doesn’t hurt that the naturally aspirated engine is working with more than double the displacement as the Bronco Raptor’s EcoBoost powertrain. In place of the 2.7-liter EcoBoost now sits a larger 3.0-liter twin-turbocharged V-6, which was long rumored. While Ford isn’t quite ready to share output figures, the automaker does confirm they’re targeting more than 400 horsepower. Both SUVs are solely available with their respective automatic gearboxes, though both do offer paddle shifters.
So without a bit more information from the Blue Oval, it is difficult to say exactly how well these two machines stack up, though it's clear Ford kept their cross-town rival in mind during development of this Ultra4-inspired offering. Regardless of which of these two 4x4s suits you best, we can all agree it's great to have some competition in the segment.
Isn't it great to be able to "settle" on a 2022 GT-500? LOL. I do hope your Bronco Raptor in Code Orange comes through for you.
They BARELY fit in the rail cars.. like by half an inch.
I want one. Unfortunately, beyond just the luck to actually get one, the undoubted ADM will put it out of reach for most. I too hate the sound, but for some reason I seem to be able to accept it more in the Bronco than a full-size F150.
Plus, this one can tow my boat.
The only thing the author of that R&T article said that's a little confusing is just what he means by saying the 392s drivetrain can compensate for the massively inferior crawl ratio. It has a V8 that doesn't produce enough additional peak torque to compensate for the % deficit in leverage through the drivetrain. So the Raptor will be far superior at rock crawling in that regard. Having fewer transmission ratios is not an advantage. That Ecoboost sound just can't be compared to a V8 however.
Maybe it's the fully boxed frame ?It's odd why they can't up the tow rating on the 4Dr base tires/susp, especially when they just finally added a rear sway bar.
Good points.Tractability and linearity of a big V-8 is still better than a turbo motor, no matter how good they've improved the lag. The consistency of getting exactly what I asked for at a certain throttle setting, repeatedly, over and over (especially on/off/on/off throttle) really can't be beat with a big V-8 (cept maybe electrics).
Not sure what this fascination is with ultra steep final drives. I run a low compr smog 400 with cam/chain on propane (which makes power even worse over gas). I'm about 36:1 with stock 79 bronco drivetrain and 7.56 overall dif/portal box mog 404 axles and 43 sticky SX's (800 lbs total). I no issues that require more gear. On paper that EB should 3.0 should eat my lunch, so not sure the concern with way more gear, much lighter tires, and a rig that is 1000 lbs lighter than my 6200 lb pig.
Meh just get out the saws all and bufferWow! Beastly
My only critique is the fender flares look a little meh and cheap. I get why they probably did it though.
As long as it has drain holes big enough to drain water and not be like jeeps and Rot out frame because water couldn’t drainMaybe it's the fully boxed frame ?
Meh just get out the saws all and buffer