Capable or compatible?
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Capable or compatible?
ahh I see, don't the FG falcons used the control blade irs or is this a new updated version? From what I hear they work pretty well but need stiffer bushings if it is the same version the falcons use
Compatible, and if the CBIRS is capable of supporting MRC... The traditional coilovers can be used in CBIRS. There are wheel well scarifies but no different than coilovers used today.
It was Gen 2 CBIRS... I don't know what Gen 3 will look like.
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I found something about the Ausie control blade irs and how they could use it on future Mustangs
TheMustangNews.com - Australian Falcon IRS
TheMustangNews.com - Australian Falcon IRS
There are currently 4 different variations of the 2nd Gen Control Blade. Performance Control Blade could use a coilover design.
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(even more incentives).
Great for overall Mustang sales numbers, not so great if you are looking for a GT500 or a Boss.
(even more incentives).
Great for overall Mustang sales numbers, not so great if you are looking for a GT500 or a Boss.
FWIW, I think the Camaro only has 1.9%/60mo right now on 2012 models.
Ford's definitely trying to move the 12's
A couple months ago it was 2k back and 0% for 60 months.
I'm sure it was. Probably to move the 11's. The Mustang has had the better incentives for the far majority of the time.
Your not implying the camaro is the better value are you?
Value is subjective from person to person.
Based on the current available incentives, I would say the Mustang is.
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Thanks for the post Tob, $3000 cash back is huge. The 2012 stock is probably getting pretty slim at this point. I never really understood why some cars have incentives before production... I received $2000 back on a 2011 at the time I ordered it on 8 March 2010. Sometimes incentives are initiated as a type of MSRP adjustment on elderly models. After R&D, cost of parts and cost of production has bottomed out, lowering the MSRP would be suicide. Simply increase the MSRP slightly year over year to recoup the cost of upgrades and then offer a cash back.
There is less butt hurt for those that bought a 2011 at $30,000 with a $2000 cash back... While a 2012 owner paid $31,000 and got $3000 cash back.
There is less butt hurt for those that bought a 2011 at $30,000 with a $2000 cash back... While a 2012 owner paid $31,000 and got $3000 cash back.
Let's just hope that the recent Mustang sales surge has Ford paying very close attention. A base GT500 that is significantly higher than a well optioned ZL1 would be a killer. I'm sure they'd like to keep the latest trend going...
It is a strange February sales number this year. Production of the 2012s stopped in November, I have a feeling that these numbers are a 2011 and 2012 mix. Fleet sales won't come out until next month at the earliest (April more likely). The 2013 just started on the 27th of February so fleet sales will come after that. Ford is getting very close to 1 million S197s sold, one more model year could do it...
Edit: 2012 Last order date was 23 December, Last Job date was 24 February.... my bad.
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Here is a great independent published read on the S197 IRS. It weighed less than our current SRA. This is not Control Blade (unless somebody sees trailing arm mounts)
DrivingEnthusiast Blog | All about the missing Mustang IRS
Super great read... lots of pictures... IF YOU ARE AN S197 ENTHUSIAST, READ THIS ARTICLE!!!
It is not out of the realm of reality that Ford themselves could do a mid MY13 release. Since the Shelby/Ford contract will expire in Jan 2013 (as far as I know), could SVT finally do the 20th Anniversary Cobra R? May give this IRS a shot... I asked Jamal this very question and the question was passed on
Here is a great independent published read on the S197 IRS. It weighed less than our current SRA. This is not Control Blade (unless somebody sees trailing arm mounts)
DrivingEnthusiast Blog | All about the missing Mustang IRS
Super great read... lots of pictures... IF YOU ARE AN S197 ENTHUSIAST, READ THIS ARTICLE!!!
It is not out of the realm of reality that Ford themselves could do a mid MY13 release. Since the Shelby/Ford contract will expire in Jan 2013 (as far as I know), could SVT finally do the 20th Anniversary Cobra R? May give this IRS a shot... I asked Jamal this very question and the question was passed on
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Whoops!!! Nevermind.... It seems the S197 IRS does have mounting points for the "Control Blade" trailing arms (not shown in picture)
wow, there is a LOT of bullshit and unsubstantiated conjecture in that article.
shows pics of the '06 cobra mule with rear brembos, and concludes that they would have been on the production car - we've seen a LOT of stuff on mules that didn't make production(cross drilled rotors on the 'ring mules) if you want to stick with brakes).
the mustang was supposed to get numerous optional engines including a 7.0l DOHC V8, and both SOHC and DOHC supercharged 4.6l - i don't need to explain how absolutely absurd that is in the first place, but ford didn't even have an engine platform that could support 7.0l back then. and single and DOHC 4.6ls supercharged??? sure...
multiples of poseur scoops and stripes and silly fanged worms - the shelby has never had any scoops, and the hood vents are obviously absolutely functional. silly fanged worms? he must mean stalwart logos of both shelby and the cobra mustang.
the intention was to bring the rear suspension into the 21st century - funny, the mustang GT hangs with the $65k BMW M3 in all performance metrics.
then the claims about the ford GT being an engineering disaster, the MT82 is a failure even though the problems have subsided in the newer models and the vast majority of them have been problem free, etc.
i find it intriguing that there is apparently no author and comments are closed. i'll get my facts elsewhere.
shows pics of the '06 cobra mule with rear brembos, and concludes that they would have been on the production car - we've seen a LOT of stuff on mules that didn't make production(cross drilled rotors on the 'ring mules) if you want to stick with brakes).
the mustang was supposed to get numerous optional engines including a 7.0l DOHC V8, and both SOHC and DOHC supercharged 4.6l - i don't need to explain how absolutely absurd that is in the first place, but ford didn't even have an engine platform that could support 7.0l back then. and single and DOHC 4.6ls supercharged??? sure...
multiples of poseur scoops and stripes and silly fanged worms - the shelby has never had any scoops, and the hood vents are obviously absolutely functional. silly fanged worms? he must mean stalwart logos of both shelby and the cobra mustang.
the intention was to bring the rear suspension into the 21st century - funny, the mustang GT hangs with the $65k BMW M3 in all performance metrics.
then the claims about the ford GT being an engineering disaster, the MT82 is a failure even though the problems have subsided in the newer models and the vast majority of them have been problem free, etc.
i find it intriguing that there is apparently no author and comments are closed. i'll get my facts elsewhere.
He did take a lot of unnecessary jabs at the car... What I really liked was the photos of the complete S197 IRS. Cast aluminum sub frame, exhaust passes straight under the axle and it weighed less than the SRA. All that cast aluminum sub frame would really tighten the car up. I need to look a bit closer at the Control Blade mounting points or there would need to be another casting made for the mounts. Training arms can pretty much be fitted anywhere..
I agree with you Ry about all the spewing, but the fact that it does exist should get Road Racers happy...
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