What happened to Evolution Performance?
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That made me think about days gone by and if that Bill Fox dealership thing still sold a ton of Mustangs.
Not arguing the decision, but why not lock the thread, delete the off topic posts, and leave the important posts pertaining to whether or not the shop is a potentially bad shop so future customers don't get ripped off?
reminds me of stories about viper guys and Hennessy.
The OP requested it be removed. We typically honor such requests (exceptions do apply).
Wow. Recall that dude wrote a 1000 page novel with all his findings and explanations of all the parts/why it possibly failed.
Guess he just wanted to move on. Remember him posting about wearing some T-shirt at some race/meet and inciting some response from one of the parties involved.
I remember something about that, but I don't recall following the thread.
Iirc the thread was something like how little boost it takes to make 1000HP of something like that. Eventually evolved to a shitstorm. Svtp deleted the thread for obvious reasons.
Yellow bullet isn't censored by svtp mods though. Get your popcorn ready
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1347058
Yellow bullet isn't censored by svtp mods though. Get your popcorn ready
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1347058
Interesting, on here, if I remember right, he said he never pedaled it. His description of RPM and what the tire is doing, on the street with regular tires and HP he had, is laughable. I do believe him when he said he sank his foot into it.
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Re: Evolution Performance is a CROOK!
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Originally Posted by boost03
OP ... When you left EVO did you beat on the car at all?? Also did you take your motor back before L&M could resolve your problem??
"No I took drove the car home on I95 to Virginia. I then went to a local cruise-in that afternoon. I had back surgery and didn't drive the car for 2 weeks and then gingerly went to a doctors appointment. On the ride home from the Doctor I sank my foot into it in first gear it light the tires up. I pedaled it softly and gently shifted into 2 gear. At this point I gently sank my foot until I felt i was hazing or was on the verge of losing traction. I held the throttle steady until the engine was around 5500RPM when it went bang._
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boost03
OP ... When you left EVO did you beat on the car at all?? Also did you take your motor back before L&M could resolve your problem??
"No I took drove the car home on I95 to Virginia. I then went to a local cruise-in that afternoon. I had back surgery and didn't drive the car for 2 weeks and then gingerly went to a doctors appointment. On the ride home from the Doctor I sank my foot into it in first gear it light the tires up. I pedaled it softly and gently shifted into 2 gear. At this point I gently sank my foot until I felt i was hazing or was on the verge of losing traction. I held the throttle steady until the engine was around 5500RPM when it went bang._
Properly built and stock motors with rev limiters should be able to hit it many of times without issues.
Now if he miss shifted from 3rd to second there would be the problem in my opinion. It happens more often than people let out.
They just post a thread I blew my motor. It's the tuners fault or machine shops fault...
Now if he miss shifted from 3rd to second there would be the problem in my opinion. It happens more often than people let out.
They just post a thread I blew my motor. It's the tuners fault or machine shops fault...
I read that on YB....what a bunch of scumbags. I would never send anything to them for anything.
As someone that has done work for a couple of people, I know of one situation where I busted ass for a penny pincher who spent as much money on parts as possible, but gave no ****s on how little he paid me. I spent the amount of time needed, not required, on putting the car together. Got bitched at for how long it took the entire time. Then received weird depressed/ranting emails at 3 in the morning of how he was "disappointed" in me.
Then after cam and Whipple install, we had trouble with the car getting tuned because the tuner and his parts selections didn't mesh. I don't tune. Never claimed I did. So I said lets use a well known one. We had the typical FBW throttle body issues that I warned him of prior to even ordering parts. Car ran like a raped ape, just never had super great driveability. Still doesn't. Pretty sure he assumed I ****ed something up, had it tore down again to check, and it still runs like shit. He blamed it all on me. I told him keep his money and GFYS.
Long story short, most people who pay thousands of dollars to car builders are so far out of the loop on what it really takes to not only build but simply own one of those cars. The OP of that thread sounded like an idiot, and Evo sounded like a crook. L&M I have no opinion of. I assume Evo told him the wrong shit to put in the motor. But who knows.
Then after cam and Whipple install, we had trouble with the car getting tuned because the tuner and his parts selections didn't mesh. I don't tune. Never claimed I did. So I said lets use a well known one. We had the typical FBW throttle body issues that I warned him of prior to even ordering parts. Car ran like a raped ape, just never had super great driveability. Still doesn't. Pretty sure he assumed I ****ed something up, had it tore down again to check, and it still runs like shit. He blamed it all on me. I told him keep his money and GFYS.
Long story short, most people who pay thousands of dollars to car builders are so far out of the loop on what it really takes to not only build but simply own one of those cars. The OP of that thread sounded like an idiot, and Evo sounded like a crook. L&M I have no opinion of. I assume Evo told him the wrong shit to put in the motor. But who knows.
The guy had the receipts from Evo and L & M proving that Evo told L&M to put cheaper components in to pad their profit. L&M was told it was a budget build and put budget rods and hardware in. Padded Evo's profit by some $2500 IIRC.
99% of the time I feel the car's owner had at least some if not all of the blame, but in this scenario it was at least 50% Evo's fault. The owner probably flogged the car harder than he admitted to, but Evo clearly did some shady stuff.
To add to what Travis said.
Sometimes the amount of time it takes to do so isn't worth it or we just don't have time period.
There are times when I move it with full intention of going back through and doing just what you are saying but it just doesn't happen.
We do what we can.
Can I demand accountability by the mods for deleting the thread or are we past that?
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Past it, let it go, just let it go.
So you dont deal with penny pinchers. Within 5 minutes of talking to him about the potential build you shoulda known what you were getting yourself into.....life's too short to deal with people like that. It sounds like you do premium work, so charge a premium price. If they dont like it, they can go elsewhere, and then pay you twice as much to fix what Bubba ****ed up...
I was paying homage to a recent thread now in SD. Lol
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Not every reputable shop charges top dollar. Some people still want to put out quality work no matter what vs only worry about the dollar (Yes, I know businesses are in business for profit). Remember, the shop's name is on that car, not just the owner of the car. That does not mean the work is any worse. Also, depends on where you live/the shop is.
/devil's advocate
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