New TSB concerning aftermarket tuning and modifications
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Odd question, could one install a high performance forged piston in the #8 cylinder only and solve this problem before any issues ever occur? It would be like removing the achilles heal for this engine. I think most would say if you pulled the motor and went into it, you might as well replace everything with stronger parts. Also, if its just the #8 piston, do all the pistons need to be replaced, or just the #8 if your #8 piston is damaged? I'm guessing it all depends on how bad the cylinder bore is damaged. I'm just seeing if this could be a cheaper option, or if people have already done this. To me it makes since to only fix what's broken if their warranty is voided and are short on funds.
No, the balance would be fudged.
And if it's detonating due to running hotter and/or not being as sensitive to the knock sensor, changing pistons won't change that. Forged pistons can die to detonation too.
IF it is the tune as people speculate(due to lack of non tuned and FI cars losing #8), then the cheapest fix would be a better tune+stock piston.
Unfortunately there is a significant chance the piston will damage the cylinder wall anyway. So piston selection would not be the only problem.
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I bought a new 20.6" Chapperel last summer with a 5.0 Volvo-Penta. Bitch is fast. Does about 60. Movin on the water. I just had the trim replaced though under warranty. It's always something!
Man this is Deja Vu, coming over from the Terminator, lots of # 8's went bad. Bad Coolant flow in the head, Bad tunes, too much Boost and Boosting in 5th and 6th gear etc. I bought a New Ford Re-man Motor, new Clutch and all the other add-ons. I broke it in easy and blew a Piston at 1500 miles in # 3. Ford sweated me but did the right thing and replaced everything, Parts, Labor, Fluids and Tax. {Thanx very much to the folks who told me exactly what to do, and when to do it before I brought the car in to Ford}.
I now know exactly what they are looking for, although the Copperhead is a much more complex PCM. As I see it we have 3 choices:
1. Stay Stock with at most an Axleback or Catback, and a drop-in Filter. Warranty will be intact
2. Go with the FRPP Tune, drop-in and Axleback when new or within 30 days of new, to keep the warranty, and STOP Modding....
3. Do the Cai, Tuner/Tune/Exhaust/ Blower/ TB/ Headers etc. Mods and take your chances with the warranty. I would suggest really reading and understanding the TSB. Ford will fight the warranty claim if there is even a hint of a Mod. that could effect the problem presented. I have talked to enough Service Mgr's, Service Techs and District and Regional Service Mgr's to know, Ford does not want to pay. My 2 cents.
I now know exactly what they are looking for, although the Copperhead is a much more complex PCM. As I see it we have 3 choices:
1. Stay Stock with at most an Axleback or Catback, and a drop-in Filter. Warranty will be intact
2. Go with the FRPP Tune, drop-in and Axleback when new or within 30 days of new, to keep the warranty, and STOP Modding....
3. Do the Cai, Tuner/Tune/Exhaust/ Blower/ TB/ Headers etc. Mods and take your chances with the warranty. I would suggest really reading and understanding the TSB. Ford will fight the warranty claim if there is even a hint of a Mod. that could effect the problem presented. I have talked to enough Service Mgr's, Service Techs and District and Regional Service Mgr's to know, Ford does not want to pay. My 2 cents.
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not that i am surprised by this TSB, but damn i am glad i sold my mustang last week...
P1000 will be a dead giveaway that your trying to hide something. It's part of the flow chart in the TSB. I expect Ford to be involved with most all of these concerns. Mode 9 results and P1000 will make them get out the microscope.
I'm going to suck it up and do a forged bottom end. Under 2K on sale. Should we have to? No.. Will it be worth it in the long run? Hell yes!
Anybody else find it funny that one of the pics of 'heavy knock' in the TSB was the exact type of picture floating around all the Mustang sites, a chunk of ring land missing?
Anybody else find it funny that one of the pics of 'heavy knock' in the TSB was the exact type of picture floating around all the Mustang sites, a chunk of ring land missing?
Thank all the jerk off's for blowing this up all over the net. Mail order tunes, which i dont know why u wouldnt double check on a dyno, people who dont have a clue how an engine runs, putting in cheap ass 93 oct from bj's, over reving the motor.
we are glad too
Thank you. Just like that *** who posted on every forum from vw to honda about ford not fixing his trans. Then i came to find out he had made multiple screen names to act like more people had the issue. And kept reposting. That Jmartro beat off.
Its the internet. I could post anything and all these no nothing tools will believe it for fact. Then it goes from one person to 50 just by people exaggerating the story.
Can we get an ABC news investigation??? Maybe involve the federal authorities??? Christ i think svtperformance should start selling tampons in their online store. I've never heard so much bitching and whining in my life.
I could understand Ford voiding warranties if everyone had a big whipple and was spraying 200 off the line, but if this car won't handle 40+/- extra hp with an o/r H and Cai, then Henry needs to be dug up and kicked in the balls!
winner! i wish i could shake your hand. Your a 100% right. The people getting these cars play xbox. So they think u can modd a car and it never blows up.
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this has been the same rule since henry ford knuckle head. U think Gm or dodge would replace a motor if someone tuned it and caused a failure. U change the engine management parameters that ford spent years and millions fine tuning your taking a chance. The car can handle it, if tuned right. dont be so dumb.
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were u born yesterday? so in 1990 if u tuned the car or did a modd to cause a failure ford would pay for it no questions asked?
Are this many people really that dumb? i have worked at a dealer since 1997. nothing has changed. They had to reissue it as a TSB do to lack of common sense.
Well I was hoping that Justin would be able to tune it right since his is in the 9s
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