I thought I had shit track weather. lol. I don't think I ever ran quite that slow bone stock. Hell, with intake, exhaust, lowering springs/shocks/struts, rear LCA, tires, and aluminum drive shaft I was running 13.4 with 5000' DA. Not the fastest thing ever but fun and reliable. Done a couple things since, but never made it to the track. Should be at 13.0-ish. Haven't touched the motor.
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I thought I had shit track weather. lol. I don't think I ever ran quite that slow bone stock. Hell, with intake, exhaust, lowering springs/shocks/struts, rear LCA, tires, and aluminum drive shaft I was running 13.4 with 5000' DA. Not the fastest thing ever but fun and reliable. Done a couple things since, but never made it to the track. Should be at 13.0-ish. Haven't touched the motor.
I don't think anyone is hating on the 2V just that what you want to do is not really doable.
Sure you can make 360rwhp in a 2V, you can make a built 2V a DD. Nobody thinks you can have both. Maybe with a BB or a 5.4 based engine. Not a 4.6 though.
I love the New Edge, I have one at the house and another inbound. Guys with built 4Vs are needing every mod in the book to hit 360rwhp in a DD.
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Sure you can make 360rwhp in a 2V, you can make a built 2V a DD. Nobody thinks you can have both. Maybe with a BB or a 5.4 based engine. Not a 4.6 though.
I love the New Edge, I have one at the house and another inbound. Guys with built 4Vs are needing every mod in the book to hit 360rwhp in a DD.
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I concur.
It's a money pit to do a 4v n/a to make over 360whp. Then the cams make it a pain to drive. At times wish I would of just gotten a cobra but I still get an awful amount of attention at car shows because most people didn't even know they made mach's in 03-04.
I kept mine all motor simply because it's a mach1 and the whole premise with a mach is the Shaker hood.
It's a money pit to do a 4v n/a to make over 360whp. Then the cams make it a pain to drive. At times wish I would of just gotten a cobra but I still get an awful amount of attention at car shows because most people didn't even know they made mach's in 03-04.
I kept mine all motor simply because it's a mach1 and the whole premise with a mach is the Shaker hood.
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Why exactly isn't it doable?
Built 4v with every mod in the book to hit 360rwhp?
What in the ever loving hell are you guys smoking?
On what planet would a 3100lb new edge with traction and 300-360rwhp not be enough on the street? Then throw nitrous on that and you have covered most of your bases. That would be a solid high 10 second car at the track.
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$1000 set of cams do suck ass. I wouldn't call that a money pit though.
2v can make just as much power N/A as a 4v now days it seems.
If 360rwhp in a 4.6 2V NA is so easy then link is to numerous ones making that power.
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My lightning sucked driving around town doing normal stuff when it was a stick. The cams made it suck. So to make a long story short, i dont recommend a 2v cammed daily with a stick.
Id always go for a the newer 3v just so the chassis/interior is more modern. Plus parts should be easier to get.
Id always go for a the newer 3v just so the chassis/interior is more modern. Plus parts should be easier to get.
Hey stopsign32v, have you ever owned a car with an aggressive cam?
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wow!
Not daily driver material. It bucks and surges at lower engine speeds.
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Big difference between 300 rwhp and 360 rwhp on the 2v.
its not that 360 isn't enough, its just that its not going to be streetable on a NA 2v.
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Really? I daily drove that for over a year.
Think he was being fairly serious.
Member here of the thread I linked in this thread in a previous post made 353 STD, which is inflated, so, more like 338-340 RWHP with H/C+Full bolt-ons.
I have NOT seen very many 360 RWHP 2V's N/A unless they had extremely aggressive setups, custom grind cams, race gas, every bolt-on/tweak imaginable, etc.
As far as making the same power as 4V's nowadays, are you suggesting 5.0's, or the older style 4.6 4V cars?
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What do you consider streetable?
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Sorry, 4v to me is still 4.6. Otherwise I would have specified Coyote.
Regardless if I'm off a couple hand fulls of RWHP, I don't care. I have never been one to race on the dyno anyways. I much prefer the track, I've found it to be more sticky.
My idea of a starting point would be TFS heads, CMS stage3 cams, Edelbrock Jr intake, and supporting mods. At least something like that. To hell with "custom cams", they are a crock of shit IMO. Everything I've had in the past I've been pleased with performance wise and I doubt this would be any different.
Fair points.
I've seen a few 96-98 Cobra's make 375+ RWHP N/A with H/C + Bolt-ons.
I agree on the track times 110%. I haven't seen too many fast N/A 2V's locally, but, I've seen extremely fast 2V's with blowers, bolt-ons, slicks/skinnies breaking bottom 11's / high 10's.
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Stick around. I will show you something not seen often with a NA 2v, I can assure you of that. As a new father of 3 I can't say how soon sadly, but it will happen.
Who thinks 400rwhp NA?
Stick around. I will show you something not seen often with a NA 2v, I can assure you of that. As a new father of 3 I can't say how soon sadly, but it will happen.
Who thinks 400rwhp NA?
Not with a 4.6. Would need to be a 5.4 to be doable.
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