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NFL Off-season thread
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Kind of a shame to see a good player wind down like that. I think most players would rather retire on their own terms.
Wow, he is a difference maker on defense. I know he was injured most of the season but is he not expected to make a full recovery from whatever the injury is?
i think the issue is that since he signed that big deal that guaranteed him like $22 million (3 years ago?) he's played a total of 9 games.
01cobravortech
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Sanders pretty much went down the same unfortunate road as Mike Brown. I sure wouldn't mind the Bears rolling the dice with Sanders. You can never have enough difference makers on your team and Sanders is bound to get a break and get healthy. Still hard to believe that a guy 5'8 has been such a force when healthy.
Peyton Manning is about to sign a bigger deal than Brady ($72mil for 4 years). They are speculating that it will be another 5-6 more years out of Manning but his age is a factor. Right now with just the franchise tag alone, Manning is set for a little over $23 million next season alone.
Planter
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big blow to the NFL....looks like the lockout money the NFL and the owners would survive on could be placed into escrow during the lockout period. Players appear to have the upper hand now.
NFL.com news: Judge rules NFL violated agreement with union in TV deals
NFL.com news: Judge rules NFL violated agreement with union in TV deals
this just more prove that the people who side with the owners on this just dont know what their talking about. the owners have been gearing up for this lockout since this last tv deal. they opted out of the current cba and up until this point the owners had no intention of agreeing to anything. and this still may not change anything. maybe, we'll get an April 1st extension but that may be it. reports are that the NFLPA is preparing to decertify tomorrow.
Planter
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i still side with the owners, despite this knowledge. the players are greedy, but imo the whole thing is a farce, they're all greedy, all overpaid, and they all whine about the money they make.
what i dont understand is why they think they deserve more money for axing 2 pre-season games, but adding 2 to the regular season in? there is no more or less risk, every one has the same chance of being injured in pre-season or regular season, and they're not doing any more really. if anything risk is reduced because pre-season games are meaningless, and by reducing from 4 to 2, that's less chance of getting hurt and more playing time for them.
what i dont understand is why they think they deserve more money for axing 2 pre-season games, but adding 2 to the regular season in? there is no more or less risk, every one has the same chance of being injured in pre-season or regular season, and they're not doing any more really. if anything risk is reduced because pre-season games are meaningless, and by reducing from 4 to 2, that's less chance of getting hurt and more playing time for them.
pay the players less abut have a better retirement program... no one told them they had to play this game.... im sorry most of them decided they wanted to be gangsta's and stuff... name of the game is they dont need 100 million dollars... The nfl should have a better retirement program though
01cobravortech
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Well if there is going to be a lockout I hope they get it right this time around. Come back with a cap on rookie salaries, 18 game season and please do away with all these dumb franchise and transition tags. Its killing free agency with all this compensation in return for signing a player.
trust me you dont want a 18 game seasons, there will be 2 byes and teams will be forced to bench certain players and were talking your Manning and Brady's not the scrubs
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bottom line is for the most part, the players just want to play. how can you call the players greedy? the players didnt decide they weren't making enough money under the old agreement, the owners did. the players aren't asking for a single thing extra. the ONLY legitimate gripe the owners have is with the rookie pay scale. other than that, the owners have taken their greed to a level that will now affect all of us.
its a $9 Billion dollar ****ing industry! the old system gave the owners an automatic $1 billion off the top and then split it with the players. last year the players had between a 51-53% cut. and they just split "NFL" revenue, that didnt even include the revenue generated from things such as Bob Kraft's Patriot Place outdoor mall (which was built at a cost of $750 million. yea, they're losing money) that is only their becuase of the team/stadium. they offered to split it 50-50 and the owners didnt even entertain the offer.
the NFL ratings are higher and the sport is more popular than its ever been, and the owners are saying the current system doesnt work and their losing money? please, dont give me that bullshit.
as far as you're preseason analysis, you do realize that in general, the starters dont play right? that means adding 2 regular season games will actually make the regular players play 2 games. if your boss told you to put in 12.5% more time at work but you weren't going to get paid for it, would you be ok with that?
no one told the owners they had to get involved in what used to be considered a "rich man's ultimate toy". the players have been groomed their entire lives to be athletes and for the most part dont know anything outside of it. the owners however, all have other interests that have allowed them to buy their way into this game. and overpaid? maybe, just remember the players get paid what people like us are willing to pour in to see it. it's basic supply and demand. also, take into consideration that the owners for the most part will make more than any player ever will, yet they've brought us to a lockout because they have decided that it wasn't enough
the franchise tag isn't going anywhere, the players agreed to it in the first place and being that it guarantees them a fairly substantial amount, they shouldn't complain.
the only way to straighten out the franchise tag would be to do away with the varying amounts per position and make it one set rate for all players. then it would force teams to decide whether or not the player is truly a "franchise player", which is what it was originally intended for.
for example, if the franchise tag was set at $15 million, you wouldn't see teams franchising D-lineman.
the owners have money coming in, in diffrent areas. for example, Jerry Jones is using his stadium for concerts, monster truck events, boxing, etc... so they'll be okay.
the NFL doesn't need a better retirement program, it's the athlete's personal resposibility to better manage their money and prepare for their future outside football. how much money would they have if they put 10-20% aside in a retirement fund?
well, normally people would quit and look for another job.
01cobravortech
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Trust me I want to see more football and less preseason games. I'm ready for an 18 game season. :rockon:
01cobravortech
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I'm well aware that the players agreed to the tag, but I would prefer it be done away with. I'm a bit sick and tired of seeing teams being able to hold onto players who want out, for another year or two. Its bad for the sport and for teams that are looking to improve their team in free agency. The draft has become such a crapshoot for so many teams that only FA allows the opportunity to upgrade with less of a miss factor.
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