Obviously the guy in the 5.0 didn't know how to drive. Even on a slow track he should be running low to mid 12's. As expensive as cars are these days the 5.0 is an amazing bang for your buck car.
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2011 5.0 vs 03 Termi
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slow track to me means :??:
ok? I saw that, im saying you're basing your opinion of one or two 5.0s. Run a basic bolt on a gear 5.0 just to see what all the 'hype" is about.
ummm if they are easy to drive then why should it be hard to hit the times these cars actually are? Btw high 12s are the average stock
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Look at all you internet racers bahahahahah. I've never driven a 5.0, but I can go jump in the pullied cobra in the garage. Both before and after the pulley it pulled just fine from 60 in 3rd. Not to mention even if ge was at the wrong rpm he got merked, the cobra wouldn't pull that thing back if they ran it out to 6th gear.
Stop bitching, 5.0 won and is faster. Started in the same gear, mph, and at the same time. Fair is fair and thats perfect street conditions.
Good video op!
Stop bitching, 5.0 won and is faster. Started in the same gear, mph, and at the same time. Fair is fair and thats perfect street conditions.
Good video op!
thanks man, you pretty much nailed everything ive tried too say :rockon:
Bottom line is that the 5.0 is the fastest car (new) for 30k. Can't argue that.
why are you comparing a 03 Cobra to a 11 GT? the successor to the 03 Cobra is the 11 GT500.. (and the soon to be 13 GT500) if your going to compare cars, compare the 03 GT to the 11 GT...
its not bad when a car almost 10 years old can keep up with and beat a brand new car that has more power and a lot more technology backing it.
its not bad when a car almost 10 years old can keep up with and beat a brand new car that has more power and a lot more technology backing it.
After just a short while the new 5.0's kinda grow on you:
This is exactly what I thought when I watched the video. That Eaton would have come on a lot stronger then that if he was truly running 60 mph in third gear and the results would have been different. I have no problems giving the 5.0 credit, but lets not skew the truth about the video to make your 5.0 look that much better then the Cobra.
Wanta4v you have an extreme bias towards Terminators, and an extreme dislike for the new 5.0's because you are upset that the new Mustangs are just much better cars than Terminators at most things, but you won't man up to this fact, and you let your prejudice blind you to facts. You really need to go drive both cars so you can see what all the hypes about. I find it ridiculous that any Ford/Mustang fan gets offended that the new Mustang GT is better than a Terminator. If it wasn't then it wouldn't be a better car than the Gen5 Camaro either. Terminators were developed on a chassis that was about to be phased out, and was long over do after 27 years and it really wasn't even that great when it was introduced in the Fairmont. Still the Terminator was a great last sending away for the old platform, but they've been roaming the streets for 9.5 years(05/02 was when they first went on sale) and to be mad that the new Mustang is better is really ridiculous. Getting a new 5.0 in the 10's is easy and cheap to do particularly if you use N2O. They are not overhyped they are just that good. And they handle like a dream when compared to the older Mustangs. They give you handling that can compete with cars like EVO's and 370Z's, and M3's and that's just the GT's, and not even the Boss 302's. They are excellent. I would take one over my old Terminator any day, and my Terminator was a factory freak that was extremely strong for my mods. Hell I'd take a new 5.0 Mustang over the modded 09 GT500 I drove, and it was a better car than my Terminator.
If you like the Terminators better then there is nothing wrong with that. Some people would rather have say a 93 Cobra than a Terminator and thats fine as Foxbodies have their charms, but to act like a 93 Cobra is a better car than a Terminator is BS just like to act like a 03 Cobra is a better car than a new GT is BS.
People act like to go as fast as a Terminator a new GT needs to be modded more, and is going to cost more in mods to run low ET's which is also BS. A new 5.0 will make 600+ HP all day easy with a $5,500 SC, a few supporting mods, and a tune. Well you can probably get that HP out of a Terminator for a little cheap, but probably within say $1,500 when buying new parts, but the people running low 10's/high 9's consistently with Terminators are likely going to go SRA, and you are going to want to buy gears for it, and good control arms, drag springs and shocks, and all the other little minor pieces to hook up the rear brakes, and so on and so forth. Then most(not all) are also likely going to want to invest a decent amount of money in going to a good auto tranny with a big stall which will run you well into 4 digit #'s. You are going to want to stiffen up the chassis obviously with SFC's, and a cage.(and not just for legality purposes) Most will probably want to go with a good tubular front suspension with DR'ing C/O's. Obviously some good DR wheels and slicks. You know all those mods add up to a lot of time and money invested.
With a new GT you don't need to do all those things. Buy a new auto GT, mod maybe 650 whp out of it, throw some 4.10's(some are still using 3.55 or 3.73's to run single digit times) in the rear, some rear good control arms, maybe some DR springs for good measure, a big stall(some are running high 9's/low 10's with the stock stall BTW) a cage for legality reasons, DR wheels and slick, and you have a full weight car capable of running single digit ET's.
Plenty of examples. Look at the mods they list to run these time. It's very impressive.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_LI816xU7o"]Rebecca Starkey runs 10.000 @ 138 in VMP Roushcharged 2011 5.0L Mustang GT - YouTube[/nomedia]
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siqUezuWSyE&feature=related"]2011 Mustang GT 5.0L - 9.95@142MPH Stock Engine & Auto Trans - YouTube[/nomedia]
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H1VPsxcv38"]Nissan GTR modified vs 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 with Supercharger - Road Test TV - YouTube[/nomedia]
Here a 3800 lb example running a TVS blower on a stock motor/tranny, stock stall, 3.55's, stock shocks, stock exhaust manifolds, etc that runs a 9.89 at 138 MPH. This is impressive for a lowly little Mustang GT that isn't overly modded, and is a full weight car.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgH2VzaHASY&feature=related"]Horseplay Performance 2011 GT- 9.89 @ 138.39 mph - 3/28/11 - YouTube[/nomedia]
Now stop hating on the new 5.0 Mustangs. Give props to where it's do. They are excellent cars and a better value than a Terminator was seeing as how they start for several grand less today than what a Terminator sold for 9 years ago, and offer up way better overall performance, build quality, and refinement.
If you like the Terminators better then there is nothing wrong with that. Some people would rather have say a 93 Cobra than a Terminator and thats fine as Foxbodies have their charms, but to act like a 93 Cobra is a better car than a Terminator is BS just like to act like a 03 Cobra is a better car than a new GT is BS.
People act like to go as fast as a Terminator a new GT needs to be modded more, and is going to cost more in mods to run low ET's which is also BS. A new 5.0 will make 600+ HP all day easy with a $5,500 SC, a few supporting mods, and a tune. Well you can probably get that HP out of a Terminator for a little cheap, but probably within say $1,500 when buying new parts, but the people running low 10's/high 9's consistently with Terminators are likely going to go SRA, and you are going to want to buy gears for it, and good control arms, drag springs and shocks, and all the other little minor pieces to hook up the rear brakes, and so on and so forth. Then most(not all) are also likely going to want to invest a decent amount of money in going to a good auto tranny with a big stall which will run you well into 4 digit #'s. You are going to want to stiffen up the chassis obviously with SFC's, and a cage.(and not just for legality purposes) Most will probably want to go with a good tubular front suspension with DR'ing C/O's. Obviously some good DR wheels and slicks. You know all those mods add up to a lot of time and money invested.
With a new GT you don't need to do all those things. Buy a new auto GT, mod maybe 650 whp out of it, throw some 4.10's(some are still using 3.55 or 3.73's to run single digit times) in the rear, some rear good control arms, maybe some DR springs for good measure, a big stall(some are running high 9's/low 10's with the stock stall BTW) a cage for legality reasons, DR wheels and slick, and you have a full weight car capable of running single digit ET's.
Plenty of examples. Look at the mods they list to run these time. It's very impressive.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_LI816xU7o"]Rebecca Starkey runs 10.000 @ 138 in VMP Roushcharged 2011 5.0L Mustang GT - YouTube[/nomedia]
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siqUezuWSyE&feature=related"]2011 Mustang GT 5.0L - 9.95@142MPH Stock Engine & Auto Trans - YouTube[/nomedia]
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H1VPsxcv38"]Nissan GTR modified vs 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 with Supercharger - Road Test TV - YouTube[/nomedia]
Here a 3800 lb example running a TVS blower on a stock motor/tranny, stock stall, 3.55's, stock shocks, stock exhaust manifolds, etc that runs a 9.89 at 138 MPH. This is impressive for a lowly little Mustang GT that isn't overly modded, and is a full weight car.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgH2VzaHASY&feature=related"]Horseplay Performance 2011 GT- 9.89 @ 138.39 mph - 3/28/11 - YouTube[/nomedia]
Now stop hating on the new 5.0 Mustangs. Give props to where it's do. They are excellent cars and a better value than a Terminator was seeing as how they start for several grand less today than what a Terminator sold for 9 years ago, and offer up way better overall performance, build quality, and refinement.
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I didn't even bother reading your novel of a post. Again 5.0s are great cars but IMO are a little over rated.
Jroc after the other thread in which you stated that a lightening handles better and is faster than a terminator you lost all credibility with me :kaboom:
Jroc after the other thread in which you stated that a lightening handles better and is faster than a terminator you lost all credibility with me :kaboom:
omg people. why are people arguing that a factory supercharged built motor car lost to a new 5.0. sorry, stock for stock the 5.0's are quicker. if you wanna make it even slap a blower on a 5.0 then talk. you cant say the 5.0's arent impressive, they make stupid power with bolt ons for an N/A ford and put a blower on it and its a whole new ball game. i know i know god forbid a termi loses a race but its starting to happen so get used to it
Wanta4v are are an obvious fool looking for excuses to be in denial. I never once said my L was faster than my Terminator was because it wasn't. Not even close. My Terminator would eat my L alive in terms of acceleration given traction. I did say that my L was a much better built vehicle than my Terminator,(minus the motor) a much better overall vehicle than my Terminator, and offers way more traction than my Terminator, and I can push it around low and mid speed turns at faster speeds before it loose grip than I could my pretty nicely modded RR suspension wise Terminator. My Terminator was quite a bit more stable in a high speed turn than my L is though, and it is lighter and more flickable than my L, but my L offers more front and rear grip than my Terminator did. If you choose not to believe these things I don't care, but you have zero experience with either a L or Terminator while I have years of DD experience in both.
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Here's some advice make your novel responses shorter and I might read them. I'm on my phone or else I'd go back and repost all of your posts that made you look like a fool. I'm not getting into this again though.
It was a good vid op and you have a very nice car. I'm just looking forward to another vid between you two when he learns how to drive a little better.
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Too long, didn't read. Just the first sentence which I find very ironic.
YOU have an extreme bias against Terminators, and an extreme dislike for them because you are upset that you wrecked yours at the track. No offense, just call it like I see it.
I'm with you on pretty much everything you've posted so far. Maybe it's the bad experiences I have had with GT owners since I've owned my GT500, I dunno. But with other Cobras I only get a wave....with GT guys I get ricer behavior and it is annoying and gay. Except for you, Justin. You're cool :thumbsup:
How about this. I don't know how old you are, but you need to grow up, and stop acting like a kid, and stop spouting off BS about vehicles which you have no experience with, or real knowledge of. If you have a hard time reading that little paragraph you should go back to school.
So you ran one basically stock (catback doesn't really add any HP to the new 5.0) '11+ 5.0 at the track and you base all your opinions on that!! :rollseyes
I have a 3.7 '11 V6 that will show your '01 tail lights. Don't even get me started with the GT!! Oh that's right they are overrated!!
No dopey don't get it twisted and put word in my mouth. I love my Terminator, and still love Terminators. They are fun, powerhouse vehicles. I have a problem with people that can't see past Terminators, and want to pronounce them to be better than they are, and better than cars they are in fact not, and especially when these people have no experience with the cars they are talking about. Kind of like they did when the GT500's first came out. Remember it was always Terminator>GT500 when that is infact very much incorrect. I still very much like Terminators,(I'm building a TermiFox for example) and if they were better than the new Mustangs I would rather have one, but they are not. I would much rather have a Terminator than a 3v S197 as it's a funner car with a much better motor with more power potential.
Quite kissing that guys butt. Yes there are many ricer GT guys, but I wouldn't really call the new 5.0 guys that seeing as how their cars are actually pretty damn fast and very competitive with a Terminator at highway pulls, and are in fact better than them at pretty much everything else.
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lol @ this thread.
The Terminator cobra is the biggest baddest piece of engineering awesome that you can buy, they don't lose, ever. Even when clearly beaten in a video, the cobra driver needs to learn how to drive! The winner beat the driver not the car!
Because heck... if I was driving a stock cobra, it would smoke ZR1s all day long.
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The Terminator cobra is the biggest baddest piece of engineering awesome that you can buy, they don't lose, ever. Even when clearly beaten in a video, the cobra driver needs to learn how to drive! The winner beat the driver not the car!
Because heck... if I was driving a stock cobra, it would smoke ZR1s all day long.
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