Well said. :beer:
"13 GT500 vs ZL1 Track Test Inside Line
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Well said. :beer:
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I still have that issue of MM&FF. :read: If I remember correctly, the 03 Cobra destroyed the 02 SS camaro in that test.
I also have the issue from 1993 where they tested a 93 Cobra against the 93 z/28. If I remember correctly, the 93 Cobra also won.
I'm sure they will do a GT500 vs. zl1 soon. :burnout:
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When I had my 99 and 01 Cobras, it was like flies to shit. Everytime I looked sideways some F-Body turd was showing his ass wanting him some. Then I got my 2003 Cobra in June of 2002. One of the first in the country and I lay claim to the first private owner dyno sheet posted on the net. Got where I never even saw an F-Body. They must have sen me coming from half a mile and got off the road. If I did run into one they wouldn't make eye contact. They looked like Sinbad sneaking out of his momma's kitchen with pie on his face. "Mr. Terminator, that wurnt me revving my engine, no sir". Hahahaha.
You will never see MT or C&D put an SS against $40-50K Euro and Asian sedans like they have pitted the 5.0 against on a road course.
I gave all my magazines to the guy who bought my 03. If I remember corectly, again, the times they got from the SS were slower than an SS they had tested previously. Even if they used that time which was not the norm for an SS because it was one of the fastest recorded passes ever for an SS, the 2003 still stomped a mudhole in the SS's ass.
My buddy had an 03. We went to tracks all over the mid-Atlantic. I don't street race but my buddy never, ever passes. My buddy speeds to damned much so I was always following him trying to get him to slow down. Somebody would see us pass and whoop out and jump on me first. I would jest motion them up to Mark and sit back and wait on the ass whoopin. I watched him humble many vettes and F-Bodies following behind. Many would try time and time again. They just could not figure out how a Mustang, even a Cobra was whoopin them so badly. We were running close to 500 rwhp. Eventually they would figure it out and slow down. I would pull up, look over and just ride along laughing at them till they would finally pull off. Then we would get to the track. Most had never seen a 2003 Cobra. We would lay a Greyhound bus on them in the1/8. The look on their faces was funny as hell.
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OK.....a little bit of math here :
123 MPH = 180.4 FPS ....that's feet per second
In one half second, a car going 123 MPH goes half that distance....or 90.4 feet................correct ?
If a Camaro is 190.4 inches long, that's 15.86 feet long.
If the Camaro were sitting at the finsih line at 0 mph and the GT500 zoomed by at 123 MPH, how many car lengths do you think the GT500 would have traveled in 1/2 second ?op:
You're not very smart, are you?
When the GT500 trips the final light, the ZL1 is still .5 seconds away from tripping that light, correct?
IF the ZL1 were going a CONSTANT 116 mph for that last half second, it would cover 85 feet in that half second.
If it were going a CONSTANT 100 mph for that last half second, it would cover 73 feet in that half second.
If it were going a CONSTANT 90 mph for that last half second, it would cover 66 feet in that half second.
You know how fast it would have average for it to only cover 40 to 50 (the number you pulled out of your asscrack, if I'm not mistaken) feet during that half second? 55 to 68 mph.
You really think the ZL1 is averaging 68 mph during the last 50' of a race that it trapped at 116?
THINK, then post. If it's only 50' behind the GT500 when the Shelby crosses the stripe, and the guy in the ZL1 COMPLETELY stops accelerating and just holds at 100 mph, he would still cross the stripe .34 seconds.
He doesn't cross the stripe in only .34 seconds, and he's not only doing 100 mph, and both these facts mean he's much FURTHER behind the GT500 than your guesses.
The ZL1 does 0-100 in less than 9 seconds. So in the 2.7 seconds or so at the end of the 1/4, it only accelerates from 100 up to 116. With only half a second left to go in the race, the car is very obviously already doing at least 110 mph. At 110 mph for half a second, it's already over 80 feet behind the GT500. Nowhere near your 40 to 50' estimate.
Edit: Aren't the timing lights at the end of the strip already 66' apart? That means the last 66' already IS an average speed, which means the ZL1 is doing at least 114 or so for the last half second of the race, which means 83.6' behind the Shelby, or about 5.5 car lengths.
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They pitted a ZL1 against the $95K GTR:shrug:
This sounded more like a media pity f@ck than a comparison. Just as the 2010 GT won most comparisons vs. the 2010 LS3 SS... I don't understand why the ZL1 starts at $55k with most of those performance numbers. A 12.4@116mph is awful!!!, the acceleration and braking of the ZL1 is worst than the previous GT500. Braking was bad for both cars but 110 feet isn't great.
Word of advice to Inside Line... I know you want to beat everyone to the comparison but please proof read what you publish. Also, spend some time behind the wheel of the GT500 and I bet you won't have any trouble with the ZL1. Learn to shift the car before you test the car.
All it takes is Inside Line to like the ride quality better in the ZL1 and the ZL1 clearly is faster. Lets not forget that this pig is packing a 4300lbs race weight...
I laugh at people that think the Camaro name was forged on the road course. I also laugh at people that still believe Team Camaro's released numbers after the pile of false numbers were released. Lets watch team Camaro eat crow one more time.
Edit: There are an amazingly high number of clueless people buying what ever Team Camaro is selling. The ZL1 is a parts bin reward to themselves... for being second best.... for 42 years.... and only quitting once. The Camaro has become the perfect example of what a pony car should never be.
Word of advice to Inside Line... I know you want to beat everyone to the comparison but please proof read what you publish. Also, spend some time behind the wheel of the GT500 and I bet you won't have any trouble with the ZL1. Learn to shift the car before you test the car.
All it takes is Inside Line to like the ride quality better in the ZL1 and the ZL1 clearly is faster. Lets not forget that this pig is packing a 4300lbs race weight...
I laugh at people that think the Camaro name was forged on the road course. I also laugh at people that still believe Team Camaro's released numbers after the pile of false numbers were released. Lets watch team Camaro eat crow one more time.
Edit: There are an amazingly high number of clueless people buying what ever Team Camaro is selling. The ZL1 is a parts bin reward to themselves... for being second best.... for 42 years.... and only quitting once. The Camaro has become the perfect example of what a pony car should never be.
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I've gotten the, "how the hell did you beat me look" from a few Camaro guys. It is pretty entertaining (ha).
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Whens the next race
Check your local Walmart parking lot. :lol1:
...and didn't it get it's ass whooped? ;-)
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So over at C5, they have pretty much called it a case closed with this Insideline piece...:rollseyes
The proof is in the article....No need to debate any further, end of discussion...:kaboom:
ZL1>Shelby
I have read some funny chit this past hour let me tell ya...:beer:
The proof is in the article....No need to debate any further, end of discussion...:kaboom:
ZL1>Shelby
I have read some funny chit this past hour let me tell ya...:beer:
Please tell us, since I never go over there. :lol1:
Most definitely a beat down, but they still stepped in the ring.
I'm all for giving the GT500 a shot at the champ. Would the results be much different?
No doubt the results will be same, but I don't have an interest in that comparo. :bored:
Since it's been pretty much established that the GT500 dominates the zl1 in any form of drag racing, I (and others) would like to see them in real road course comparos, not some parking lot autocross bs. :bored:
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