No weight reduction, gears, k-member and bolt-ons. 9 second 6spd car.
"13 GT500 vs ZL1 Track Test Inside Line
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No weight reduction, gears, k-member and bolt-ons. 9 second 6spd car.
Yes, gears, long tubes, I believe a catless xpipe, stock catback, passenger and rear seats removed, plus lightweight drag brakes.
If I understand it correctly the ZL1 can use heads and such that are already out there... so if you are giving yourself $2500 couldn't they do heads for that much? I'm not sure you could squeeze a tune and all in for that much but you get what I'm saying. It's the same ol' pushrod GM.
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Where did you read about the seat removal and drag brakes?
On here. Evo said it themselves. They had to put the brakes on to fit the smaller wheels. They said wheels will be available soon that will allow people to keep the stock brakes.
Ancient history?!:rockon: So you want to MOD the ZL1 but keep the '13 GT500 stock so you can make it ancient history:nonono:....that's fair. How about you give the same pulley and tune mod to the GT500.oke: If you are going to mod the crapmaro give the same to the GT500, apples to apples. You will still be seeing GT500 taillights.:beer:
Hehehehe, I estimate the average mullet head will not modify his ZL1 because he is too chicken shit where as the average Cobra owner doesn't mind pulling out a hole saw and popping a few holes in the sheet metal because most of us have owed several Cobras. I'm on my fourth and I'm drilling the shit out of my GT500 modifying the crap out of it. 2010 with plenty of warranty. I writ that off after I left the dealership.
We will see videos of ZL1's puking parts on the few that do add boost soon enough.
Tick...tick...tick...tick...
SNAP...CRACKLE...&...POP.........
We aint talking Rice Crispys............
......KABOOM.........
ZL1 puking parts all over the track.
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Slower than a 2003 Cobra with a 2.80 pulley, CAI and a tune on ET Streets. I'm real impressed.
Yes they do, and im speaking from first hand experience. Are you?
I take it this was your Cobra you mentioned above, because I had the very car you mention, 04, pulley, tune, JLT intake the only differance is I ran Toyo DRs and I can assure you it was no where near running 11:40s. Especially with a single pass.
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 - On Track - Automobile Magazine
An actual track test. Only one real one done so far. Can never just go off one single race, and the time differences seem to close where it could still be a driver issue.
An actual track test. Only one real one done so far. Can never just go off one single race, and the time differences seem to close where it could still be a driver issue.
You underestimate what the LS engine is capable of. It's really not making that much power.
Yeah lightweight drag brakes. That's why the ZL1 guys were squawking about losing streetability. Yes they pulled the seats.
drag brakes??where is this coming from??
from what I recall evolution said they put 2012 brakes on the car, since they are smaller and able to fit the wheels they had...thats it
from what I recall evolution said they put 2012 brakes on the car, since they are smaller and able to fit the wheels they had...thats it
From all the discussion and arguing back and forth they put "lightweight" brakes on the car that saved ~40lbs? Something like that? Putting 2012 brakes on the car isn't going to save that much weight and certainly isn't going to adversely affect drivability/streetability. Maybe I'm wrong but that's the impression I got.
Im not saying it for sure, because the evo car was mum on the full upgrade list due to the media embargo with 5.0 mag...but from I recall the car was fitted with 2012 brakes just to fit the drag wheel setup...I could be wrong though. But I dont know where the drag, lightweight brake thing came from :shrug:
Go look in the thread on here where it was first released that they ran 10's. There's a lot of back and forth in that thread about their mods. They say themselves that the seats are pulled and list the weight of the seats (someone was falsely saying they weighed more than they do). I'm not 100% sure on the front brakes but they're running 15's on the rear and swapped to a much smaller lightweight brake, probably Strange. They say they cut 40lbs off with the brakes, which is not just a swap to '12 brakes. Plus you can't fit 15's on the '12 brakes anyways. They did it because they couldn't fit their existing wheels over the stock brakes, but something will be out for them shortly so people won't have to swap brakes.
I'm not complaining about them swapping them, just stating the facts. Even with the brake swap it's still minimal mods to get the car in the 9's on the stock engine, clutch, and transmission. :rockon:
yeah im not disputing the removal of seats and such....and at this point its still great to get into the 9's that quickly...im sure others will too while keeping stock stuff on the car...:beer:
Definitely. I also want to see what people do with the various stages of mods. Basic bolt ons, tires, then with a pulley, etc.
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