Yea, because a random tire review on a website, where a guy says "gives cup2 run for the money", WITHOUT ANY ACTUAL TEST DATA, constitutes law.
You guys crack me up.
GT350R wins vs ZL1 in M/T & KBB h2h's.
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Yea, because a random tire review on a website, where a guy says "gives cup2 run for the money", WITHOUT ANY ACTUAL TEST DATA, constitutes law.
You guys crack me up.
We'll show us your test data.
That's right you're never wrong...you don't need data.
I'm still waiting on your explanation why gm chose the so called slower tire.
You should have been asking that to Ford when they chose the cup2s vs the old z28 trofeos.
At least GM makes sense, cause you know the regular ZL1 is not their ALL out track car like the R is.
EXACTLY. There are many things that give the R an edge, yet all we've heard from you has been the crying and complaining of the ZL1's more powerful motor.
Both manufactures picked how they would build their cars, it just so happens that Ford lost and now you are upset about it.
I told you why ford chose cup 2 instead of Trofeo. The cup 2 last longer and are better in the rain. The cup 2 is more a daily drive tire the Trofeo more race.
But evidently you don't listen to me.
But evidently you don't listen to me.
That's why gm is putting the equivalent of the cup 2(G3) on the zl1 and the the Trofeo(r3) on the zl1 1le.
Price is the same. Want is greater with the 350.
ZL1 wins the 1/4
350 wins the road course just as a gt3 or GT4 would also. Honestly the ss 1le is better on track.
Zl1 does win highway.
Cool
ZL1 wins the 1/4
350 wins the road course just as a gt3 or GT4 would also. Honestly the ss 1le is better on track.
Zl1 does win highway.
Cool
Price is not the same. Ask GT Premi.... lol....
Your in big time denial bud, BIG TIME.
Tell me again how the R won at the roadcourse!
Better braking, n/a motor make it a much better road course car.
Have fun Hot lapping a blown car.
Msrp start at 63k. How am I wrong?
Have fun Hot lapping a blown car.
Msrp start at 63k. How am I wrong?
Not a bit. It has better power to weight and is newer. It should have better hero lap.
This thread still going on?
Come on Zy.. you keep forgetting that the GT350 wins the "feelings" race.
Big win there.. don't overlook it.
Come on Zy.. you keep forgetting that the GT350 wins the "feelings" race.
Big win there.. don't overlook it.
Drive a 997 GT3RS and a new ZL1. Then tell what one you want to drive...
Ah come on. Gt3rs is a damn dream car. Not much compares.
Those who drive the R compare it. Hell even the Porsche Team drivers have an R at their disposal. It's that good.
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Ha hahahhahaha. .4 seconds at big willow, with 650hp? Vs 526? And it's the better "handling" (grip is what everybody means. Whatever)
Let's do like Ross Perot.
Here's the pictures to make this easier.
BIG WILLOW. (BBBIIIGGG)
A technical momentum track (fair comparison)
Mazda raceway leguna seca
Big willow looks like a giant oval converted to have a few turns. Leguna seca? My money is on the gt350r having a faster hero lap by half a second, car vs car, driver/conditions same day bla bla scientific as possible.
5 lap average? The gt350r by 5 seconds+. Just my opinion.
And no, I'm not going to bother saying throw them on a technical circuit because the gt350r already won their. In the figure 8 test it was .1 faster than the zl1, and "tied" the auto zl1
Keep in mind when Randy Phobst drive the auto vs the manual zl1, he was quicker in the manual car. Not talking shit on the figure 8 driver, but I think the gt350r had more in it with more time to learn the transmissions mojo. There is a lot to be said for getting a real feel for a manual car. Autos are much easier to hop in and go fast with on day one. Ask any racer.
Let's do like Ross Perot.
Here's the pictures to make this easier.
BIG WILLOW. (BBBIIIGGG)
A technical momentum track (fair comparison)
Mazda raceway leguna seca
Big willow looks like a giant oval converted to have a few turns. Leguna seca? My money is on the gt350r having a faster hero lap by half a second, car vs car, driver/conditions same day bla bla scientific as possible.
5 lap average? The gt350r by 5 seconds+. Just my opinion.
And no, I'm not going to bother saying throw them on a technical circuit because the gt350r already won their. In the figure 8 test it was .1 faster than the zl1, and "tied" the auto zl1
Keep in mind when Randy Phobst drive the auto vs the manual zl1, he was quicker in the manual car. Not talking shit on the figure 8 driver, but I think the gt350r had more in it with more time to learn the transmissions mojo. There is a lot to be said for getting a real feel for a manual car. Autos are much easier to hop in and go fast with on day one. Ask any racer.
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Decent video but didn't teach me anything I didn't already know to be honest.
If anything, it solidified the fact that I will want a track pack base GT350 along side my 07 gt500 some day.
^ to give me 11's, that post reads like democrat math to me. Feel free to try and correct me if you feel I'm wrong...
My point: there's some roughness in the ride, there's not a back seat (on that particular car, it's an option), etc.
Democrat reaction: ban the R, it's going to kill someone.
My point: there's some roughness in the ride, there's not a back seat (on that particular car, it's an option), etc.
Democrat reaction: ban the R, it's going to kill someone.
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