Concealed carry holster

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I prefer to minimize the odds of a "whoops" putting a hole in me, or anyone under my supervision at a match.

If Ken Hackathorn, who has trained all over the world for nearly a half centrury and whose training I’ve participated in, thinks it's a bad idea I'll go with his experience, along with my own observations over some stranger on the internet.

And for every expert stranger who is against a certain manner of carry, there’s one for it.

My point is irrefutable.
 

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That's an example of shitty firearm design but that's a discussion for another time.

Interesting point.

What would firearm design have to do with a shirt getting caught in the trigger guard or a shooter with developing muscle memory putting his finger on the trigger at the wrong time?
 

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True, but I think the point being made is that nobody is perfect, and some carry modes are more forgiving of human frailty than others.

Absolutely ageee, devil’s advocate says that there’s no forgiving method of carry if it ends with a ND and/or injury.

Gotta be careful and aware no matter how you choose to carry a weapon. Getting complacent because “I’m carrying in a ‘safer’ manner” is a recipe for disaster.
 

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Interesting point.

What would firearm design have to do with a shirt getting caught in the trigger guard or a shooter with developing muscle memory putting his finger on the trigger at the wrong time?
If the safety mechanism on a firearm is meant is to prevent those types of discharges and a t-shirt can cause a discharge that's a faulty design. It's like an airbag that's purpose is to save lives but when it discharges it impales you with deadly metal fragments.
 

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Crossbreed Supertuck IWB.

For those who complain about the Crossbreed squeaking: use strips of Velcro, the loop side, or soft side, and stick it on the back of the metal clips the go over the belt. So the Velcro is in contact with the leather of the holster. This solves squeaking 100% with no future maintenance.

I've also tried Aliengear and Stealth carry. As others have may have mentioned these holsters, as IWB, by their retention design, require the you "rock" the gun into the mouth of the holster to open up the kydex. I don't like pointing a condition 0 weapon at myself. This is why I'll only carry IWB with a full kydex holster that is fastened to the leather backer. You can't crush the kydex on a Crossbreed, for example, as much as you can on the Stealth and Aliengear. Please be careful if you use those holsters. They are as bad as a leather holsters for IWB carry. Leather in an IWB application is a recipe for disaster...
 

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I've got a box full of holsters, some more pricey than others... but the one I use most often is a basic leather IWB from High Noon Holsters. I believe it is the 'Upper Cut' model.

I typically clip it on my jeans pocket with the gun inside of my pocket, clip on the outside... and my shirt hangs over the grip of my gun. It's perfect for hiking and other situations where typical IWB would be uncomfortable, and open carry might bring unwanted attention.

It's a very comfortable way to carry and highly concealable with a hoodie or jacket. I like that my firearm is extremely accessible, and I feel like it is a safe way for me to carry.

My carry gun is a Sig P938 SAS, Condition 1 (cocked and locked). I'm used to working a safety after growing up shooting my dad's various 1911s so it is second nature for me. I shoot my Sig quite a lot and it has been extremely reliable... I most definitely trust it with my life.
 

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That sad feeling when you live in a state where you can’t legally carry, and don’t want to bother with possible risk of still choosing to carry.
 

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That wasn’t what you said.

You said “those are examples of shitty firearm design” and now you’ve come full circle to agree with me saying design has nothing to do with it, and it’s the shooter.

Do you even know what argument you’re trying to make?

You wanna fight so bad that you can't even keep track of who you're arguing with? LMMFAO!
 

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That wasn’t what you said.

You said “those are examples of shitty firearm design” and now you’ve come full circle to agree with me saying design has nothing to do with it, and it’s the shooter.

Do you even know what argument you’re trying to make?
He didn't say that, I did. You're confusing the two of us ;)
 

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About two weeks ago we were running about 75 shooters in an IDPA match. A guy had just loaded and was holstering a "hot" gun at the beginning of a stage (as instructed by the SO) and the gun went off. The SO was watching when it happened and was pretty sure the shooter's shirt got caught in the trigger guard and when he pushed the pistol into the holster it went off. Fortunately it was outside the waistband at three o'clock and the round hit the ground.

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This almost happened to me at a match that turned into qualification drills. Kent Mote was running the drills and pointed out what was about to happen.

This was with a serpa duty holster and a Glock 19.
 

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Serpa holsters are unsafe and not allowed by several instructors I use.

That being said, anyone in a rush to holster their weapon is a fool. If the threat has ended why is one In a hurry to holster? Take your time and make sure your shirt, etc. Is out of the way.
 

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