Car and Driver tests GT500. Runs 11.4@132...

[GotHemi?]

I realize from seeing you try to extol the forum of your greatness on other threads that you believe the world is poplulated entirely by idiots (with the exception of yourself) but....contrary to what you may believe, I am perfectly aware of the wide variations in vehicle performance due to atmospheric conditions.....

I’m not comparing winter runs on OEM tires to summer runs on drag radials. I’m talking runs in very similar conditions.

But that’s OK. You continue to believe what you tell yourself. All I know is I pity the first unsuspecting GT500 owner that really thinks a Redeye is slower by almost 3 seconds to 150 and tries one from a highway roll.

Mine does 0-130 in right around 10.5 seconds. You really think it takes another 4.5 to pick up 20 more mph.


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This. This. This.

The Demon & Redeye have literally made some of the mustang guys delusional with envy. They’ve been praying for ford to be on top again since 13-14. I’ve literally seen the new GT500 compared to the McLaren F1 and Veyron in this thread.

They really believe the Trinity is faster than the Redeye. That claim alone from C&D says it all. The 13-14 GT500 has never ran 10’s even on a tire or trapped 130 stock, both of which the 707 Hellcat have done numerous times but im supposed to believe its faster to 150 than a Redeye?? C’mon

Now to get me wrong. The new GT500 is FAST. Hell of a machine and I wouldn’t be surprised if it edged a Redeye from a roll. I honestly thing in due time we’ll see videos of both winning. If i were a betting man, on one race, id put my money on the GT500 just edging the Redeye. Im talking 2 car lengths or less. Definitely not a HUGE gapping a 3 second difference would be to 150.

Also you’re a damn fool or horrible driver if you trap 3-5 mph slower on a street tire than a radial.

On my V I trapped within 1mph with both. But i also have enough sense to manage the wheel spin out of the hole with a street tire.


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[ON D BIT]

This. This. This.

The Demon & Redeye have literally made some of the mustang guys delusional with envy. They’ve been praying for ford to be on top again since 13-14. I’ve literally seen the new GT500 compared to the McLaren F1 and Veyron in this thread.

They really believe the Trinity is faster than the Redeye. That claim alone from C&D says it all. The 13-14 GT500 has never ran 10’s even on a tire or trapped 130 stock, both of which the 707 Hellcat have done numerous times but im supposed to believe its faster to 150 than a Redeye?? C’mon

Now to get me wrong. The new GT500 is FAST. Hell of a machine and I wouldn’t be surprised if it edged a Redeye from a roll. I honestly thing in due time we’ll see videos of both winning. If i were a betting man, on one race, id put my money on the GT500 just edging the Redeye. Im talking 2 car lengths or less. Definitely not a HUGE gapping a 3 second difference would be to 150.

Also you’re a damn fool or horrible driver if you trap 3-5 mph slower on a street tire than a radial.

On my V I trapped within 1mph with both. But i also have enough sense to manage the wheel spin out of the hole with a street tire.


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Or your an ok driver if you trap the same regardless of tire.

This is the first time I’ve heard Ranger being called a terrible driver!
11.0 at 127 ranger stock
10.7 at 130 ranger dr.

 

[gofast15]

Every stock redeye and Hellcat run 10s on the internet . 9 out of 10 cars I have seen at the track had different results

 

[gofast15]

They really believe the Trinity is faster than the Redeye. That claim alone from C&D says it all. The 13-14 GT500 has never ran 10’s even on a tire or trapped 130 stock, both of which the 707 Hellcat have done numerous times but im supposed to believe its faster to 150 than a Redeye?? C’mon

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You are compering times from a VHT prepped track surface to a regular dusty unprepared surface .LOL
C&D tests cars on unprepared surface . Show me a stock Hellcat running 10s on the street.

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

Every stock redeye and Hellcat runs 10s on the internet . 9 out of 10 cars I have see at the track have different results

(^^^)Here, this guy (vvv)already said it for me.

Knock it off with all of that common sense wrapped up into an easy to read, to the point post!

It’s great that only the fastest dodge guys end up on SVTPerformance to let us know how slow our Fords are. I don’t have the time to check, as I’m working on a 6 page thesis response to a political section here on svtp, but I bet if I did go to the dodge forums, there will be a majority of mid 11 hellcats and very high 10/low 11 red eyes.

 

[gimmie11s]

Can we get the cliffs tho?

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

Considering the magazine in question got the gt500 to 150mph in 15 seconds with a terrible 3.6 0-60, on a optimally prepped surface it might be closer to 14.5 seconds with a 3.3 or better 0-60.

 

[tones_RS3]

I don’t have the time to check, as I’m working on a 6 page thesis response to a political section here on svtp,

I KNEW IT!!!!!!
LMFAO

 

[93 347 Cobra]

This. This. This.

The Demon & Redeye have literally made some of the mustang guys delusional with envy. They’ve been praying for ford to be on top again since 13-14. I’ve literally seen the new GT500 compared to the McLaren F1 and Veyron in this thread.

They really believe the Trinity is faster than the Redeye. That claim alone from C&D says it all. The 13-14 GT500 has never ran 10’s even on a tire or trapped 130 stock, both of which the 707 Hellcat have done numerous times but im supposed to believe its faster to 150 than a Redeye?? C’mon

Now to get me wrong. The new GT500 is FAST. Hell of a machine and I wouldn’t be surprised if it edged a Redeye from a roll. I honestly thing in due time we’ll see videos of both winning. If i were a betting man, on one race, id put my money on the GT500 just edging the Redeye. Im talking 2 car lengths or less. Definitely not a HUGE gapping a 3 second difference would be to 150.

Also you’re a damn fool or horrible driver if you trap 3-5 mph slower on a street tire than a radial.

On my V I trapped within 1mph with both. But i also have enough sense to manage the wheel spin out of the hole with a street tire.


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You're shocked that a car with 5.81 pounds/horse and a smaller frontal area is capable of running faster than a car with 5.65 pounds/horse and worse aero to 150? I'm guessing you've never run a straight line event longer than 1320-feet...

 

[Tezz500]

You're shocked that a car with 5.81 pounds/horse and a smaller frontal area is capable of running faster than a car with 5.65 pounds/horse and worse aero to 150? I'm guessing you've never run a straight line event longer than 1320-feet...

People have a hard time grasping the nonlinear way that drag coefficient works.


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[tt335ci03cobra]

Drag. It’s a drag. Exponentially. I wonder why a boxtruck only goes 100-125mph with all that torque but 0-30 faster than a Miata... surely it should just magically keep dat gap bro! Why is a 480hp gtr able to go 190mph but a 540hp gt500 can’t...

Can we get the cliffs tho?

I got 6/$10.

 

[93 347 Cobra]

People have a hard time grasping the nonlinear way that drag coefficient works.


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It's actually a big misconception that CD is the whole story with aerodynamic drag. I'm going to fail miserably at explaining but CD is how efficient a shape is given its size. But a larger size still has to push more air out of the way as it travels. So reducing the frontal area reduces the amount of air that has to be pushed out of the way and reduces aerodynamic drag. The correct term is Force Drag.

More detailed and much better explanation...


It was actually an aerospace engineer who chimed in on another thread years ago who made this all click for me.

 

[SlowShelby_TX]

Every stock redeye and Hellcat run 10s on the internet . 9 out of 10 cars I have seen at the track had different results

Devil's advocate here, I have seen early gt500s run in the 14s close to sea level.

 

[SlowShelby_TX]

Considering the magazine in question got the gt500 to 150mph in 15 seconds with a terrible 3.6 0-60, on a optimally prepped surface it might be closer to 14.5 seconds with a 3.3 or better 0-60.

Again with the Devil's advocate....while I agree with what you say, are the times for the other super cars you mention done on a comparable surface and tire to your hypothesis?

Again, I want a new GT500 and would buy at MSRP before year end if possible. Since it is not likely, I will have to jump brand if I want something comparable for the $ speed wise.

 

[Klaus]

The Demon & Redeye have literally made some of the mustang guys delusional with envy.

Yeah, I dunno. Scoot on over to hellcat.org and you will see that most of the guys there have a terminal case of SDS (shelby derangement syndrome). The crazy shit these guys are writing to defend their HCs and REs is entertaining but also sad and they need help. @Purvis

They’ve been praying for ford to be on top again since 13-14.

Dodge was not even in the discussion from 1970 to 2015. While they were dicking around with Pacificas and PT cruisers, FOMCO spat out the terminator and two generations of GT500. Hats off to Dodge for all they have done since 2015 but GW Bush was in office when that chassis was designed.

Edit: Trinity GT500 is the mic drop of manual shift muscle cars, btw. There will not be another manual that combines straight-from-factory bad assery + aftermarket support. HC M6 is #2.

(I say all this as a HC owner BTW)

 

[gimmie11s]

Every stock redeye and Hellcat run 10s on the internet . 9 out of 10 cars I have seen at the track had different results

Same can be said for every performance car, ever. I cannot count on one hand how many vipers, ferraris, and 13/14 GT500s have run 13s and 14s at my local track.

blah blah blah, 6 page story on how cool i am and how corrupt the deep state is

blah bleh blah.

I got 6/$10.

Impressive. Youve quoted the same post of mine twice. Im flattered.

Dodge was not even in the discussion from 1970 to 2015. While they were dicking around with Pacificas and PT cruisers, FOMCO spat out the terminator and two generations of GT500. Hats off to Dodge for all they have done since 2015 but GW Bush was in office when that chassis was designed.

(I say all this as a HC owner BTW)

Truth right here.

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

Same can be said for every performance car, ever. I cannot count on one hand how many vipers, ferraris, and 13/14 GT500s have run 13s and 14s at my local track.






Impressive. Youve quoted the same post of mine twice. Im flattered.





Truth right here.

You too mad bro, chill. Go watch a movie. The world is fine.

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

Again with the Devil's advocate....while I agree with what you say, are the times for the other super cars you mention done on a comparable surface and tire to your hypothesis?

Again, I want a new GT500 and would buy at MSRP before year end if possible. Since it is not likely, I will have to jump brand if I want something comparable for the $ speed wise.

Never said the gt500 doing 14.5 0-150 on a prepped surface means anything compared to other cars.

Even if it did it in 10 seconds and it took a mcLaren f1 30 seconds (it takes “14 seconds flat”) I’d much rather have the 3 seater.

Saying Johny is awesome at baseball does not mean that I think Sam, who is notably better at baseball somehow is now inferior to Johny. Letting Johny know that Cindy has a crush on Billy but will go to the monster truck show with Tucker doesn’t mean anything except that it varifies what we all know,

Geoffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself.

 

[Klaus]

Geoffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself.

Who is Geoffrey Epstein?

 

[tones_RS3]

Edit: Trinity GT500 is the mic drop of manual shift muscle cars, btw. There will not be another manual that combines straight-from-factory bad assery + aftermarket support. HC M6 is #2.

(I say all this as a HC owner BTW)

Preach,..................
You got rid of your HC???