Just saw an ad that states that the Ford 500 is offered in AWD trim. Is the platform the same as the new stang?
05 Stang and Ford 500 have the same frame?
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They are both built on the Lincoln LS platform.
True but the Cobra is built on a "highly modified" LS platform. Not set up for AWD.
wrong on both counts the five hundred is a volvo platform and the 05 mustang is a mazda platform its built side by side with other mazda products at the same plant.
the five hundred and the freestyle are on the same frame.
its a mazda platform face it and accept the fact . that why the exsuast mufflers come out from behind the rear axle just like the mazda 6. ford does not build two different platforms in the same plant anymore. to think of it ford does not even use a ford enginered platform anymore only the frame stuctures on f150 and lincoln and grand marquez.
The Mustang is NOT a Mazda platform. It is unique to its self, It was loosely based on the Lincoln platform. To many changes had to be made, now the 05 Mustang has its own platform for the fist time ever. Lots of cars have rear exit exhaust but they are all not kin.
ford had to change the ls platform so much to make the 4.6 fit they are calling it a new chassis all to itself. it is however made at the mazda plant.
I needed a good laugh for the day...
I was at the Woodward Dream Cruise this past August, and went to Ford World HQ for a presentation on the new Mustang. Numerous FORD engineers and designers spoke on the new Mustang, with one on stage behind them while they spoke.
The Mustang IS NOT A MAZDA PLATFORM, IS NOT AN LS PLATFORM, IS NOT A 500 PLATFORM, IS NOT A VOLVO PLATFORM.
IT IS IT's OWN PLATFORM. END OF DISCUSSION......
Oh, and the mufflers are placed where they are, behind the axle, to make them easier to change out, according to the engineers who spoke.
This entire muffler placement thing is another element of BS that has been speculated in this forum to a point of absurdity. It needs to be cleared up.
They are where they are because the fuel tanks are under the back seats - leaving the rear area under the trunk the only place to put them.
They are *not* more restrictive back there, they are less. And, the stock exhaust system is probably the most efficiently designed exhaust system that has ever been put on a Mustang. That doesn't mean it can't be improved with higher flow aftermarket peices, but it will be at the expense of sound, NVH, and drivability (and possibly emissions).
Ideas that have been floated by one post on this forum about somehow moving them back under the rear seat with aftermarket peices are rediculous.
And while they may or may not be easier to change out, that consideration has nothing to do with the final placement. First and foremost item of importance was getting the fuel tank into the proper - aka safest - place.
As far as running a side exhaust - that would be a really stupid idea because the pipes would have to exit directly under the tank. Just where you don't want the heat. Yes, recent show-cars from Ford run side exhausts - but in both cases the fuel tanks have been replaced with a fuel cell.
They are where they are because the fuel tanks are under the back seats - leaving the rear area under the trunk the only place to put them.
They are *not* more restrictive back there, they are less. And, the stock exhaust system is probably the most efficiently designed exhaust system that has ever been put on a Mustang. That doesn't mean it can't be improved with higher flow aftermarket peices, but it will be at the expense of sound, NVH, and drivability (and possibly emissions).
Ideas that have been floated by one post on this forum about somehow moving them back under the rear seat with aftermarket peices are rediculous.
And while they may or may not be easier to change out, that consideration has nothing to do with the final placement. First and foremost item of importance was getting the fuel tank into the proper - aka safest - place.
As far as running a side exhaust - that would be a really stupid idea because the pipes would have to exit directly under the tank. Just where you don't want the heat. Yes, recent show-cars from Ford run side exhausts - but in both cases the fuel tanks have been replaced with a fuel cell.
:bash: Sorry man, but this might be the worst post ever.
Per an article I saw last week, the Flat Rock, MI plant has separate lines for welding the Mustang and Mazda6 platforms - because they ARE different structures. The lines only converge for certain assembly and paint operations.
I think you're incorrect on that one. It IS on a Mazda based platform...which is based on the LS platform in some ways. There are plenty of articles out there stating that Ford wanted to use the LS platform for the new Mustang, but couldn't because their current 4.6 4v (and maybe the 3v???) won't fit! It would need a complete different front suspension. That is the singe largest reason the LS8 isn't supporting a 4.6 in some version or another. They wanted to use it because the Lincoln LS8 Sport is the single best handling mid priced sport sedan in the world. Period. However, the Mazda platform does support the different engine sizes.
So you're all correct...and wrong. It's a combination of both of them.
who really gives a farts as***********
Yeah no shit. Everyone has said something different. :sleeping:
For the last time, NO, the mustang is not the same as a Mazda platform. It did start out as an LS/Jag/TBird platform, but they quickly discovered it wouldn't work. The only part they took from that chassis is the floor pan, and even at that it is modified. The Mustang is now considerd to have it's own platform, and is NOT in any way shape or form a Mazda platform... Ask anyone who attended the one and half hour seminar on the 05 at the Dream Cruise this summer at Ford World HQ, where numerous engineers, designers, and marketing officials stated and confirmed what I just said.....
and for the last time who give a farts as**************
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