If they are 450-460hp and 200lbs lighter, it shouldn't be too hard to break into the 10s with a converter/bolton auto...
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Why did they give it an 8k tach, looks to me like this will rev better than the previous GT 
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Why did they give it an 8k tach, looks to me like this will rev better than the previous GT
4 cyl maybe? :shrug:
Performance wise I would be disappointed if the car isn't .1 quicker to 60, and .2-.3 quicker in the quarter than the Boss in magazine tests. Real world numbers will matter most, but for the sake of internet war of words it will be mag tests that will be cited most often.
On a road course I hope to see it best even the ZL1. More than that, I hope the brakes hold up so that it is repeatable performance, not just a hero lap. Whatever the track version is, that better be quicker than the Z/28, which will be quite a feat as that car is pretty impressive on a road course if initial reports are to be trusted.
No matter where you stand on this car, it's an exciting time to be an American pony car fan!
On a road course I hope to see it best even the ZL1. More than that, I hope the brakes hold up so that it is repeatable performance, not just a hero lap. Whatever the track version is, that better be quicker than the Z/28, which will be quite a feat as that car is pretty impressive on a road course if initial reports are to be trusted.
No matter where you stand on this car, it's an exciting time to be an American pony car fan!
Must buy lotto tickets!!
That wasn't my question. I have read where Boss owners have trouble shifting at high rpm and the manual transmission was pointed to as the problem. I was wondering if anything has been changed/improved on the transmission to prevent the GT from having the same problems as the Boss. Perhaps the GT will be rev limited low enough to eliminate the potential problem...
The Getrag manual has a new shift linkage design for shorter throws and improved precision. The shift lever is now positioned closer to the driver and away from the cup-holders so the driver has a clear path for shifting.
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I have had issues with shifts at redline which I believe, and many others do too, is because of the remote mounted shifter. They seemed to have addressed that with the revised linkages and bushings, but it remains to be seen of it will work. Also, someone stated that the case was lighter, but on StangTV they quoted Ford rep as saying the 6 speed auto was a lighter case, not the Getrag manual.
its not a Boss specific issue, it happens on GT's as well. A stock rev limiter wont matter, because the issue happens on cars tuned to run north of 7800 rpms, basically the synchros just cant keep up. However, with this new and improved drivetrain, it will be possible to make more power with less rpms, and could eleviate, or at least partially remedy that problem.
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The Getrag six-speed manual has been revised to allow for smoother shifting and we hope greater durability. A new shifter design and new bushings improve shifter throw in the six-speed and the shifter has been moved closer to the driver for an improved driving experience.
The Getrag six-speed manual has been revised to allow for smoother shifting and we hope greater durability. A new shifter design and new bushings improve shifter throw in the six-speed and the shifter has been moved closer to the driver for an improved driving experience.
Sweet!
How long before the big shops. i.e.jpc have one with headers, nitrous, turbos etc..oke:
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Most of the extra cam sweep is for fuel economy and emissions IMO. to make power you don't need to sweep the full 50 degrees as it is now... although I did see the original CJ tune and it has full overlap i.e. 50 degrees on both cams. hmmmm. :??:
Also, bigger valves was the only thing we could do to improve flow, and that would need an architecture change.. I bet they made that happen along with the improved port (improved, not bigger).
It will not have much more power to the tires though since the parasitic losses are a lot higher, probably almost double the solid axle - one pc. drive shaft losses.
No DI? that seems off.
Not to me...can't put it all out first year. Ford is in the business to sell cars. I bet you see DI in the middle model year to push them through to the next refresh.
Aussie unveil video claims 529 Newton meters of tq, so about 391ish ft lbs...I dont see 450hp...I see 430.
How long before the big shops. i.e.jpc have one with headers, nitrous, turbos etc..
Probably quite a while since the cars wont hit lots til next fall. Cant wait though to see how far someone can push this 2.3. It sounds like it has good pieces in it and will be a depart from the normal bolt on v8.
Im thinking with DI we will see a 500 hp 5.0, but not right away. The new camaro debuts soon too and I think Ford is saving that to one up GM.
In my opinion many of these changes are powerband changes, and to improve airflow in the mid lift ranges ( for added torque in the low, and mid rpm ranges). With a 200 lb lighter curb weight it may be that the first variation will have an improved powerband but not make much more peak power.
That's just the current output. I've seen a ton of US stories saying 420/390 (the current level). What Ford has said is it will make more than the current level without saying how much, and the press is just translating that into the current numbers.
Double? As in ~30% instead of ~15%? I find that hard to believe.
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