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Discussion in '2015+ Shelby GT350 Mustang' started by usaf_branham, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. jvandy50

    jvandy50 Active Member Established Member

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    Are you sure? The manual, unless they changed it, said up to 1qt per 500 miles was considered normal. I’ve not seen any replaced that were above that threshold. Did they change the criteria?
     
  2. gjcavana

    gjcavana New Member Established Member

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    I have not seen that, all I can attest to is my experience. When i got my GT350 out this spring and it was using oil so I took it to the dealer and the started logging it. I put about 3k miles on it while they were logging it and adding the oil themselves. It was using just over a qt to 1.9 qts per 1k miles. based on that they are replacing the engine. Should get it back this week.
     
  3. Snoopy49

    Snoopy49 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    This can apply if your racing the car, not if you just normally driving the car on the street.

    From the 2019 GT350 Owners Manual Supplement - Page 54
    "You can drive high performance vehicles in such a way that may lead to higher oil consumption (this includes extended time at high engine speeds, high loads, engine braking, hard cornering maneuvers, and track use). Under these conditions, oil consumption of approximately 1 quart per 500 miles (1 liter per 800 km) is possible. As a result, you need to check the engine oil level at every refueling and adjust to maintain proper levels to avoid engine damage."
     
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  4. IamRacerX

    IamRacerX No brand loyalty rhetoric here. Established Member

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    Your cars oil use of 1 to 1.9 quarts per 1k is not 1 quart per 1k btw....
    Good luck. Hope it goes smoothly!
     
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  5. jvandy50

    jvandy50 Active Member Established Member

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    Yes that part, thanks.

    What i was curious about was if they changed the criteria for replacement. They had to wait until my car was under the 500 miles/1 qt threshold before they could authorize a new long block, whether it was on track or not. I was curious if they had changed it...looks like they have not.
     
  6. Voodoolt90

    Voodoolt90 New Member Established Member

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    may as well get them to order a second motor hahahahha, youll need it, I was in your shoes a little while ago. My court ordered award is posted below. Message for details and share the award on FB, twitter, or wherever in order to bring awareness to the issue and to know that there is more options than having ford ride out your warranty and bullshit you on how they did you a favour replacing the motor.
     
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  7. Voodoolt90

    Voodoolt90 New Member Established Member

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    In the matter of an Arbitration pursuant to the Canadian Motor Vehicle Arbitration Plan

    (“CAMVAP”)

    Between:

    LUCKY ###### (“Consumer(s)”)

    -and-

    FORD MOTOR COMPANY OF CANADA, LIMITED

    (“Manufacturer”)

    Final Award

    Appearances:

    For the Consumer: Lucky ######

    For the Manufacturer: Myron Petriw

    Arbitrator: Kent Woodruff

    Hearing Date(s): February 8, 2019

    Hearing Location: Prince George, BC

    Award Date: February 15, 2019

    Vehicle Details:

    VIN: 1FA6P8JZ0G55##### (the “Vehicle”)

    Make and Model: 2016 Ford Shelby GT350


    In Service Date: June 20, 2016

    Date of Purchase: May 5, 2017

    Kilometres at Hearing: 37,879 Krns


    The Consumer asked for:


    A buy-back without a reduction for use due to ongoing mechanical issues which have not

    been resolved and began from the first 300 kilometres that the Vehicle was driven or

    alternatively a buy-back with a reduction for use

    Consumer takes this position because the engine was completely removed and replaced twice

    and now the Manufacturer’s Repair Dealer has been unable to diagnose the further loss of

    engine oil and starting problems..

    The Manufacturer asked for:

    An order dismissing the Consumer’s claim

    Manufacturer takes this position because;

    I. the Vehicle is still under warranty

    ii. The Manufacturer denies any liability for the failure to replace the oil cap which

    resulted in oil loss.

    2 of5

    iii. The Manufacturer’s Representative submits that the Consumer did not check the

    oil at time intervals suggested by the Manufacturer for this high performance

    engine that uses oil in its operation.


    There is no dispute between the Consumer and the Manufacturer on the following matters:


    1. The warranties are still in force


    2. The Manufacturer replaced two engines and in fact spent $53,000 on warranty work

    on this Vehicle

    3. Due to a change in ownership the Consumer did not receive an information bulletin

    from the Manufacturer that addressed:

    a- Tightening the oil filter assembly to 16-18 foot pounds using a special cap

    wrench which they provided with the bulletin

    b. Their recommendation to check the oil level at every reffieling as during

    operation under certain conditions ( high engine speeds, high loads, engine


    braking, hard cornering and track use) oil consumption of approximately I

    litre per 800 kilometre is possible.

    Conclusion:

    For all of these reasons, I find in favour of the Consumer in this case.

    Order:

    I now order as follows:

    The Manufacturer shall buy - back the Vehicle at a price of $57,532.49. The buy-back

    shall take place in accordance with section 6.1.5 of the Agreement for Arbitration and

    I shall remain responsible for case until the buy - back is completed.
     
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  8. Relaxed Chaos

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    Hmm... So a $60K car that the manufacturer knows burns excessive oil does not have a low oil level indicator? Makes perfect sense.

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  9. usaf_branham

    usaf_branham Member Established Member

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    Update: I finally put 1k miles on the car since the last oil consumption test... burned 3 quarts. This is the 2nd test they have done. Dealer is going to ping Ford again about a new motor.
     
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  10. biminiLX

    biminiLX never stock Established Member

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    I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t take no for an answer. Adding 15qts in a 5k oil change interval is unacceptable and the new motors seem to be holding up well.
    -J
     
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  11. CobraKid04

    CobraKid04 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Are u saying the 2019+ isn't having this problem?
     
  12. usaf_branham

    usaf_branham Member Established Member

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    The service manager seemed pretty confident that Ford is going to send me a new motor. I am a little concerned because during the first test, the request was made and Ford wanted two more done.

    I hope they have everything straightened out with the 19+ motors.
     
  13. DAVESVT2000

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    Supposedly the very late 18’s and all 19’s have some minor upgrades in conjunction with the upcoming 2020 GT500, since they share the same block.
     
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  14. Coosawjack

    Coosawjack Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Has anyone at Ford fessed up as to where the oil is being lost??:cool:

    If it's getting past the rings or intake valves I'd expect the plugs and combustion chambers would show it??:confused:
     
  15. CobraKid04

    CobraKid04 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Yea, several fantastic upgrades, but I'm curious if the oil issues have been solved.
     
  16. usaf_branham

    usaf_branham Member Established Member

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    I had to take the car to the dealer for pictures... of what, I dunno. Otherwise still waiting on words.
     
  17. usaf_branham

    usaf_branham Member Established Member

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    I was told today that Ford authorized the motor replacement and they are getting everything on order. I wish there was some way of tracking this online.
     
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  18. 03reptile

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    Congratulations! Hope it gets done quickly and you're back on the road!
     
  19. mustangsinnj

    mustangsinnj Member Established Member

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    Hopefully everything works out. You guys got me super worried. I just put down a deposit on a 17 grabber blue no stripes with 13k miles. Will keep a eye on my oil. Or should I just go to a Ford dealer and see if it has issues. The build date was dec. 2016 so the one bumper to bumper will be done. I still have one more year on powertrain. Been thinking if I should get an extended warranty soon.
     
  20. jvandy50

    jvandy50 Active Member Established Member

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    powertrain is 5yr/60k i believe, so you have more than a year for the big stuff.
     

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