Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?
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That is why i said a while ago on another forum,that the next GT500 is gonna destroy the CRAPMARO zl1 1le.What a stupid name,only an idiot Garbage Motors boy thinks its a super car.
Agree. I barely notice them, but can't deny what they can do. I have a Chevy for a company car. I put 4 times as many miles on it in a year than I have either of my Fords, so when I say I'm no fan of their quality it isn't coming from some fanboy who knows nothing about them...
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shots FIRED!!the zl1 beat the GT350 R by .39 with over 100hp more.that shows me the zl1 is not as great as a performing car as most think.i think the 1le of that car is because they knew regular zl1 could barely beat the GT350 R.
Considering how many backed up hooptie builds from mild to wild have run the same lap times as the zl1-1le at Kevin’s with sub 650hp, I can honestly say I don’t think the gt500 will have a hard time shaving 1.8 seconds off the gt350r time to come into the zl1 1le range of 1:34’s.
Guys have gone 1:21 on 2 wheels in super bike class, and the actual lap record is waaaay down around 1:05 iirc in an Indy car.
The viper acr with 600-650hp went 1:28 on a streetable tire.
This better went 1:34 and this mercury also did so, neither makes 600hp iirc.
The tt2 rules mandate 8:1 lbs/hp. Which means that corvette was tops 350-400hp or it was factory weight which is highly unlikely. TTU is unlimited hp, but judging by the chassis, it’s be unlikely it ran 1:34’s with that much chassis and tons of hp. The chassis looks like it could put 800+ hp to use.
Guys have gone 1:21 on 2 wheels in super bike class, and the actual lap record is waaaay down around 1:05 iirc in an Indy car.
The viper acr with 600-650hp went 1:28 on a streetable tire.
This better went 1:34 and this mercury also did so, neither makes 600hp iirc.
The tt2 rules mandate 8:1 lbs/hp. Which means that corvette was tops 350-400hp or it was factory weight which is highly unlikely. TTU is unlimited hp, but judging by the chassis, it’s be unlikely it ran 1:34’s with that much chassis and tons of hp. The chassis looks like it could put 800+ hp to use.
Meh, I guess people just focus on the negatives.
Can we take a sec to appreciate the fact that while ford may well sit atop the podium in 2019, or whenever:
Dodge has held the straight line throne for 4 years in a row.
Chevy arguably holds the lap time belt handily for the last 4 years. Down on power, bla bla yes the gt350r is technically quicker in corners than the zl1 and possibly zl1 1le, it ain’t faster around circuits.
Now, I’m not saying I’d buy the dodge or Chevy products personally because obviously I’m a mustang guy but let’s quit trying to say dodge and Chevy havent been winning.
This dude with a zl1 bought a nice car. The guys with hellcats bought great cars.
Dodge has held the straight line throne for 4 years in a row.
Chevy arguably holds the lap time belt handily for the last 4 years. Down on power, bla bla yes the gt350r is technically quicker in corners than the zl1 and possibly zl1 1le, it ain’t faster around circuits.
Now, I’m not saying I’d buy the dodge or Chevy products personally because obviously I’m a mustang guy but let’s quit trying to say dodge and Chevy havent been winning.
This dude with a zl1 bought a nice car. The guys with hellcats bought great cars.
What am I missing??? Did you mean 4 or 5 months?
I suspect the same thing. I'll even take it further and say I think the ZL1 1LE exists because they couldn't build a Z/28 that could eclipse the GT350R, but you still can't say the ZL1 and ZL1 1LE aren't great performing cars.
I was wondering, too.
Destroy? In my opinion, nothing is going to be destroying anything at this point. Might something be quicker in some regards (like around some corners, or on some straightaways, etc.) and shave seconds or fractions of seconds here and there? Sure. But at this point, given where HP and TQ and suspension technology, etc. are I really do not think anything in the Dodge/Chevy/Ford arenas (when considering cars within the same 'class', not a ZL1 1LE vs Taurus for example) will be destroying each other. Go ahead and jack up HP and TQ and shave weight and put out improved traction/suspension and whatnot, but I do not see anyone among these manufacturers having a silver bullet that is going to be 'destroying' the competition anymore.
HELL YES! Wait, what is a GT500?
I've said it before (in this thread?), these HP wars don't have long to live. The next evolution is going to be smaller size and lighter weight with similar or slightly better HP:weight.
World is changing, in my neighborhood I've got kids driving their mom's Tesla Model Xs seriously challenging my GT500 now. My Dad just picked up a Tesla that Motor Trend got to a 0-60 time of 2.28 secs, hit some buttons and press the throttle and the computers guarantee a good launch. Four wheel drive, full torque at 0 RPM, no shifting, is hard to beat. Not quite sure where muscle cars will fit in this new world order. Pretty sure I don't want to write Ford a big check just for yet another Mustang that sits at the light smoking its tires while the neighbors kids are laughing halfway down the block.
Not worried at all about Chevy and Dodge.
Tesla’s don’t have top end. If you can get 1.40-1.50 60ft times out of your car, it’s possible to beat Tesla’s.
I’ve taken on a few and done very well, they do launch hard though. They only trap like 120-130.
I’ve taken on a few and done very well, they do launch hard though. They only trap like 120-130.
At a roll above 30-40 they are no problem for my still stock (except for some Pilot Sport Cup 2s) GT500. Tesla guys do seem to like to play though. I suspect they collect lots of sports car kills.
I think that the ICE (internal combustion engine) gives you a different driving experience. I have been in a electrical car and while cool, they don't really excite me. Sometimes a burn out is kind a cool, and nothing like a V8 idling.......
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I told my wife just the other day, that while I am not completely ruling out the new GT500, I will almost certainly stick with my '13 because one; I love the aesthetics of the car, two; Griggs+VMP+$= all the handling and power I could want, and three; at some point we'll be forced into electrics anyway and the one I'll want will probably be expensive, so I better use the 2019 GT500 ADM to start saving for it.
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