Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?

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Pill 3 zyborg. Pill 3.

11's, It takes the demon 840hp at 4250lbs with the aero of a barn door and a hero run to trap 140. That's a 135-137 car in average conditions. We all know sc coyote cars doing that. Cut the crap.

Here's a 700whp irs t56 cobra going 138, looks full weight.


That's 775-800hp. Considering a 470whp 3650lbs gt350r traps 122, I'd say a 750-800hp 10spd auto car weighing 100lbs more than this ~3650lb cobra has a 140 in it.
 

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Looks full weight? Lol. Your reach for straws never ceases to amaze.

Also, 138 is 138, not 140.

Your words partner, not mine.

Let me know what that shoe tastes like.
 

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Partner, lemme draw the picture for ya, connect the dots.

You put that engine in an s550 with a 10spd auto. 140+ easy. Very easy. Much stiffer car, much better transmission.
 

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10.0@139, 10.1@141

7500 da of altitude. Not much of a straw or hero run at that altitude

And the 6r80 is not what the 10spd will be.
 

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Now we are talking automatics? Smooth move there.

I remember when that car was for sale. ^^

Makes almost 900 wheel hp.... Closer to sea level its still well over 700whp.



But thanks.
 

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It doesn't make 900whp. That's corrected to hell. That's like up here when "900whp" cars run 135.

Why wouldn't we talk auto? The demon is auto. Get a manual demon to run 10.5@135 and I'll give you all the internet points.

The point you're missing is that an sc 5.0 with a 10spd will be an easy car to run bottom 10's with at 140. 138, 141, 137.9, 142.31, 139.99999999, 140.00000001, etc.

The topic will be "you had to put slicks and skinnies on it!" Ya, the demon comes on drag radials and has optional slicks. Big whoop.
 

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Demon running high 10's at near 130!

The track conditions where a demon goes 9's are pretty extraordinary. I've seen cars lose 5-10mph from conditions, but this is boarderline wtf territory.

He says the onboard computer showed high 10's at near 130. So that's what, 11, 12, 13, 14mph lost to conditions?

For comparison, I've seen well driven c6z's run 112-115 up here at 4500ft-7000ft da and they'll routinely run 120-125 at sea level with hero runs around 127-128.

Considering all of that, I don't think the demon is going to average much more than 133-135 in decent conditions/private hands.
 
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Who would have thought that cars will not run their best times in subpar conditions and with a rookie driver? Who would have thought??? Lol

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•that "rookie" has reviewed and driven hundreds of cars for motortrend for over 5 years. He's probably driven down the strip more times than everyone who's posted in this thread, maybe combined.

•that "rookie" pulled wheelies in that video. So from there, since that's an excellent launch if the conditions are so terrible like you say, what part of the run does he need to learn some driver mod for, the back end? Was there a part in the vid where he was saying "Damn I really wish I had the nerve to keep that pedal wot but I just keep lifting at the 330' marker" nope, looks like he kept it planted through the entire run.

So, these conditions... Pretty bad conditions. It's so bad he was doing wheelies. That's hard man. It really sucks when your car hooks that hard at the drag strip cause like John force burnouts are the whole point of even going there.

Heat? Hot conditions? Mid day in summer? We all run our cars in those conditions. Who goes to the drag strip when it's 40°f with a 15mph tailwind? I wouldn't brag about numbers I ran on a day like that. Quick way to set yourself up for lots of lost street races. "I run 9's at 140." Calls out fast cars, gets wrecked. "Well, I did that in a mineshaft mid winter" We've all ran or seen supercharged mustangs with 700whp run 10's at high 120's and break past the 130's. Nothing new here. Lots of us have done it with mid 600whp range, some of us have gotten there with high 580+whp. Manual trans no less, in convertibles and even with sub woofers and full interiors... Nothing magic about high 10's at almost 130.

By that logic nearly every member on this site who's had a terminator actually had a 9.65/140 car but just didn't drive them well or find the goldilocks venue.

You guys keep popping those Hillary pills.
 

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Jesus pill2,

Watch the video and PAY ATTENTION.

Here, I quoted the meat and potatoes for you:

"The timing lights weren't running, so we only had the Demon's onboard acceleration timer to see the results. If it's to be believed, the Demon ran in the high 10s at near 130 miles an hour, all afternoon. That's far off Dodge's best 9.65 second pass, but considering the high heat and humidity, the number of people making back to back to back to back burnouts and runs and my own inexperience with the car, it's an impressive feat of durability and consistency." - Carlos Lago
 

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Hey zyborg, so if the demon is running high 10's at high 120's in summer conditions, at a day time run event, does that mean all the high 10, high 120's mustangs and camaro's and firebirds and corvettes are also 9 second/140moh cars since, you know, this mythical demon is cool enough to be associated with a 1.25 second variance and 13mph difference just because of conditions?

I've never seen a car pick up 13mph and 1.25 seconds by waiting out the day time heat for night time air.

I have seen things like gen 3 camaro ss's going 12.7@109 in 40° temps at -900 da... But they ran consistent 13.3-13.5@102-103 everywhere else. That's a half second and 5mph.

Are we really going to start assuming 1.25 seconds and 13mph?

That's horseshit. I know a guy up here at 5000ft da with an all motor big block Chevelle door slammer that ran 9.60's@143 mid day in July back 10 years ago, it was close to 95°. He took that car down to the east coast for nationals and went 9.06@149 later evening like 8pm with good air.

His words "the high altitude air cuts easier, but chokes the car. Car breaths a lot better down there but has to cut through a forest"
 

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I would assume a 5.0/5.2 with CNC ported heads and a TVS 2650 could make 750hp in OEM form and with the 10A and priorities on keeping weight around 3750#, we would ALL be happy.
All bench racing really.
I don't like to leave SVTP much but is there a link/place with solid GT500 info?
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"The 5.4/5.8 is a tired old news design"

I agree it isn't cutting edge but nothing says old and tired more than, cam in block, pushrods and 2 valve per cylinder.
 

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"The 5.4/5.8 is a tired old news design"

I agree it isn't cutting edge but nothing says old and tired more than, cam in block, pushrods and 2 valve per cylinder.

You have a valid point but GM doesn't need 32 valves and 4 cams when they have head flow that Ford could only dream of.
 

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