Are there any logical arguments against gay marriage?

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It affects you only if you are a lazy/bad parent. So many other much worse things happen in the world than those awful scary gays, how on earth will you explain those events?

Putting words in my mouth Dale?

I never said awful or scary. Ill explain what the bible relates as a sin and leave it at that. Those people are good people they just have a veil of bullshit covering their letting them think that it's alright. My big sin is adultery of the mind. (Porn). I'm not better than a homosexual but you don't see me bulking the courts for special rights in mob fashion.
 

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I'm an atheist and I think gay marriage is wrong. You can live together and do whatever you desire, but Marriage was intended to be between a Man and a Woman. End of conversation.
 

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Please carry on? I never saw a valid point. Still waiting.

Because marriage, whether gay or not, is a legal binding of two people, and the constitution separates religion and law, so your or anyone else's religion should have no bearing on the laws in effect or to be put in effect.

Do you believe in the constitution?
 

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I said to keep religion out of it, because one person's/group's religious views should not dictate laws that govern the entire population.

You are free to believe what you want, feel what you want, think what you want and live how you want...and everyone else should be free to do the same. You don't have to agree with it, but how can you not see that everyone deserves the same rights in this country?



Do you believe murder is illegal? Stealing? At the end of the day all mans law is adopted by Gods law. We just pick and choose.

Even if you allow gay marriage. In my eyes you are still under religious laws.

Ill give one good reason against it that is t religious to tickle your thoughts.

Anal sex is pron to disease and virus spreading above all other forms of sex. So to ban it cuts down on these such things.
 

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Do you believe murder is illegal? Stealing? At the end of the day all mans law is adopted by Gods law. We just pick and choose.

Even if you allow gay marriage. In my eyes you are still under religious laws.

Ill give one good reason against it that is t religious to tickle your thoughts.

Anal sex is pron to disease and virus spreading above all other forms of sex. So to ban it cuts down on these such things.

Worst logic ever. Stealing, murder, assault, etc are all immoral no matter what religion anyone follows. Saying those are God's laws is ridiculous and baseless.
 

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As said before once religious beliefs are taken out of the equation then there is no real argument against it. Might as well close the thread now.
 

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As said before once religious beliefs are taken out of the equation then there is no real argument against it. Might as well close the thread now.

I beg to differ. I have no problem with gays but don't think Marriage is acceptable. They can cohabitate or anything else but the intent of marriage (yes it was the religous nuts that started the concept) was meant to be between a man and a woman. The intent was to procreate (yes stated earlier in the thread). Have friends that are gay/lesbien and hold no animosity towards them but just can't accept the term marriage if it doesn't involve both sexes.
 
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I think there's holy matrimony and there's is civil union some people get married by the state legally and then doit through the church as well. Gay marriage will always be tied on the conflict with religion taking that out of the equation I would say that the other argument is tradition .... Tradition tends to be marriage between a man and a woman. This is a complicated subject because you have the whole spectrum of both religious fanatics and religious haters but I feel human rights is a matter in this subject let's not forget that gays are people too and they deserve what rights other people have as well such as marriage
 
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I beg to differ. I have no problem with gays but don't think Marriage is acceptable. They can cohabitate or anything else but the intent of marriage (yes it was the religous nuts that started the concept) was meant to be between a man and a woman. The intent was to procreate (yes stated earlier in the thread). Have friends that are gay/lesbien and hold no animosity towards them but just can't accept the term marriage if it doesn't involve both sexes.

Where does it say that besides religious text?
 

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Do you believe murder is illegal? Stealing? At the end of the day all mans law is adopted by Gods law. We just pick and choose.

Even if you allow gay marriage. In my eyes you are still under religious laws.

Ill give one good reason against it that is t religious to tickle your thoughts.

Anal sex is pron to disease and virus spreading above all other forms of sex. So to ban it cuts down on these such things.

Murder and theft are illegal under man's laws, religious laws don't come into play here, this is not a theocracy.


I beg to differ. I have no problem with gays but don't think Marriage is acceptable. They can cohabitate or anything else but the intent of marriage (yes it was the religous nuts that started the concept) was meant to be between a man and a woman. The intent was to procreate (yes stated earlier in the thread). Have friends that are gay/lesbien and hold no animosity towards them but just can't accept the term marriage if it doesn't involve both sexes.

Why is it unacceptable to you? Because you hold to a definition of marriage based in religion? How could it possibly affect you? How can you call them friends when you don't think they are entitled to the same rights that you enjoy? I wouldn't want a friend who thought of me as a second class citizen.
 

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Because marriage, whether gay or not, is a legal binding of two people, and the constitution separates religion and law, so your or anyone else's religion should have no bearing on the laws in effect or to be put in effect.

Do you believe in the constitution?

You have a point there.
 

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Because marriage, whether gay or not, is a legal binding of two people, and the constitution separates religion and law, so your or anyone else's religion should have no bearing on the laws in effect or to be put in effect.

Do you believe in the constitution?

Then why isnt it legal in all states?
 

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as long as you don't push your agenda on anyone or try to get them to do something they're not comfortable doing or breaking a law...who cares?

If people would just mind their own ****ing business and let everyone do their own thing (within the confines of the law of course), then what business is it of anyone else's what someone else does in their bed or who they marry?

Does it effect you? No.
Do they want to push their lifestyle on you? No.
Are they going to infect your children's minds with some dirty perverted sense of understanding of what love and sex are? No.
Are you kids going to be gay because they see two women kissing in public? No.
are your kids going to be gay because they see two guys holding hands at the mall? No.

MIND YOUR OWN ****ING BUSINESS. THEY'LL MIND THEIRS. What is so hard about this?

You do your thing, they'll do theirs.
 

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Then why isnt it legal in all states?

Because there are too many narrow minded people in this country.

But it's going to change, most likely when the Supreme Court rules on it in the Spring, then it will be federal and the states will have no choice (the states shouldn't have a choice anyway, it's a civil rights issue, which is always federal).
 

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as long as you don't push your agenda on anyone or try to get them to do something they're not comfortable doing or breaking a law...who cares?

If people would just mind their own ****ing business and let everyone do their own thing (within the confines of the law of course), then what business is it of anyone else's what someone else does in their bed or who they marry?

Does it effect you? No.
Do they want to push their lifestyle on you? No.
Are they going to infect your children's minds with some dirty perverted sense of understanding of what love and sex are? No.
Are you kids going to be gay because they see two women kissing in public? No.
are your kids going to be gay because they see two guys holding hands at the mall? No.
MIND YOUR OWN ****ING BUSINESS. THEY'LL MIND THEIRS. What is so hard about this?

You do your thing, they'll do theirs.
1. Yes it does.
2. Homosexuality agenda it's self is a push off on others. They don't want you to condem it etc. some times the government shouldn't listen to the cries if the mob.
3. Your naive if you don't think there is an influence and that it is "ok."
4. The probability rises if good parenting isn't in place yes. Again your being naive.
 

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Murder and theft are illegal under man's laws, religious laws don't come into play here, this is not a theocracy.




Why is it unacceptable to you? Because you hold to a definition of marriage based in religion? How could it possibly affect you? How can you call them friends when you don't think they are entitled to the same rights that you enjoy? I wouldn't want a friend who thought of me as a second class citizen.

Love them for who they are but not for what they do.
 

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this is the biggest bunch of horsecrap I have seen here in quite sometime.

1. Yes it does.
2. Homosexuality agenda it's self is a push off on others. They don't want you to condem it etc. some times the government shouldn't listen to the cries if the mob.
3. Your naive if you don't think there is an influence and that it is "ok."
4. The probability rises if good parenting isn't in place yes. Again your being naive.
 

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1. Yes it does.
2. Homosexuality agenda it's self is a push off on others. They don't want you to condem it etc. some times the government shouldn't listen to the cries if the mob.
3. Your naive if you don't think there is an influence and that it is "ok."
4. The probability rises if good parenting isn't in place yes. Again your being naive.

Even if your ignorant comment was even partially correct, how would #4, a parenting problem, be gay people's problem? That's like blaming the CT shooting on guns rather than bad parenting decisions.

Other than your terrible spelling and painful grammar, please try to explain some attempts at points behind the rest of your empty post. What is their "agenda?" Do you also think minorities have an agenda and should not be allowed to mix with whites in public because that could promote interracial marriages if proper parenting is not in place?





I have yet to see anyone answer my question on page 1 regarding my marriage and its implication to this discussion; that's probably a function of the lack of an answer which pushes your agenda.
 

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