I had a 6 head, with a drawer, Orbita winder. I pretty much got it, because of a JLC perpetual calendar that I had (It was a lengthy process to set it, so wanted to keep it running). After the sale of that piece, as well as the winder breaking, I stopped using it. So I got the Orbita fixed (just looked they are still in business), and then sold it. No more winders for me.