Automakers again SCREWING the public? (Factory Warranty Related)

[CobraBob]

Do that many people private sale cars so new they’re still under warranty?


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Well, maybe not all that many, but it certainly happens. I wonder if @ArabianOak might comment on this, since he typically keeps a car mere weeks or short months and then re-sells. And he's had high-end vehicles along the way. Maybe not ones on that list, but that list could grow.

 

[7998]

This is only on special cars like the Z06, they are also blacklisting the flipper from future allocations.
Their trying to curb some of the jack-offs that brag about having 3 or 4 allocations at several dealers and selling their "spot", or plan on flipping the car right away.
GM should've done something similar to Ferrari and mandate the dealer sells at MSRP and if the buyer sells within 2 years the dealer has first rights.

 

[Bullitt1448]

I find it bizarre that the factory wants to dictate to a customer what they can do with their post purchase vehicle. Warranties have been transmissible for decades, They want to stop the customer from profiting but are ok with dealers charging ADM's? Where is the logic?

 

[13COBRA]

Well, maybe not all that many, but it certainly happens. I wonder if @ArabianOak might comment on this, since he typically keeps a car mere weeks or short months and then re-sells. And he's had high-end vehicles along the way. Maybe not ones on that list, but that list could grow.

Doesn't he typically buy pre-owned stuff?

I find it bizarre that the factory wants to dictate to a customer what they can do with their post purchase vehicle. Warranties have been transmissible for decades, They want to stop the customer from profiting but are ok with dealers charging ADM's? Where is the logic?

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[jpro]

No.

Chevrolet, Ford, Stellantis, etc are cracking down on that as well.

Proof? And what does "cracking down" actually mean? Ford telling dealers they will incur a $25k fine for selling Lightning EV demos within 6 months of acquiring them is hardly cracking down when they just add a $75k ADM and profit by $50K.

Most of us have seen or heard what Farley has said but I'll believe it when I see it. When you find a dealership who takes care of you, stick with 'em.

Unfortunately, I have yet to find a Ford dealer who fits this description in my area since moving here 5 years ago. Last 2 Mustangs were private party purchases for this very reason. Hell, the Ford Dealer near me ****ed up the oil change on my GT350 so bad I vowed to never take it back. Service manager was a groveling POS. I LOL'd in his face.

Stop looking and just reach out to me

Getting on a plane now. Pick me up at airport and have my Mach 1 HP in FJG, iconic silver, or white waiting. I'll cut you some slack: you can pick the color. Oh, it has to have elite interior and Tremec as well. Hurry up! I'll be there in 3-4 hours!

 

[13COBRA]

Proof? And what does "cracking down" actually mean? Ford telling dealers they will incur a $25k fine for selling Lightning EV demos within 6 months of acquiring them is hardly cracking down when they just add a $75k ADM and profit by $50K.

Getting on a plane now. Pick me up at airport and have my Mach 1 HP in FJG, iconic silver, or white waiting. I'll cut you some slack: you can pick the color. Oh, it has to have elite interior and Tremec as well. Hurry up! I'll be there in 3-4 hours!

Ford release EFC10474 stating that it will be seen as a poor look for the brand and the first time you will lose 1 unit of allocation of the same vehicle (trim) for the following year, second infraction will be a years' worth of allocation for that particular unit.

There's still a week to order one before they close the banks.

 

[jpro]

Ford release EFC10474 stating that it will be seen as a poor look for the brand and the first time you will lose 1 unit of allocation of the same vehicle (trim) for the following year, second infraction will be a years' worth of allocation for that particular unit.

There's still a week to order one before they close the banks.

If I order, what is the timeline for build and delivery?

BTW I'm a cranky old man but I'm not old yet! Hence all the complaining! LOL

 

[13COBRA]

If I order, what is the timeline for build and delivery?

BTW I'm a cranky old man but I'm not old yet! Hence all the complaining! LOL

I'd say within 8 months.

 

[Papaw]

What happens to the poor guy that stretches his budget to the max to buy his dream car and then has a personal or family emergency and needs to sell his new purchase?
This whole thing sounds almost illegal to me.

 

[GTSpartan]

Pretty sure its legal, or at the very least, cost prohibitive to try and fight them in court. Likely all embedded in the purchase agreement.

Ford did something similar with the GT, and actually went after people over it and won.

 

[13COBRA]

What happens to the poor guy that stretches his budget to the max to buy his dream car and then has a personal or family emergency and needs to sell his new purchase?
This whole thing sounds almost illegal to me.

I'm sure there's a clause on how to get rid of it prior to a year. I hope it has to be first right of refusal to the dealership, but I bet it goes to the manufacturer.

 

[7998]

What happens to the poor guy that stretches his budget to the max to buy his dream car and then has a personal or family emergency and needs to sell his new purchase?
This whole thing sounds almost illegal to me.

1. Don't stretch that hard for a toy.
2. No one is saying you can't sell said toy. GM just isn't transferring the warranty and banning you from future allocations.
3. For every poor guy who has a financial emergency there is 100,000 guys who are flipping the car.

Those flippers are keeping untold amounts of budget stretching soon to die enthusiasts out of their dream car.

 

[CobraBob]

Doesn't he typically buy pre-owned stuff?



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You might be right, Nick. It just always seemed like new stuff to me.

 

[CobraBob]

What happens to the poor guy that stretches his budget to the max to buy his dream car and then has a personal or family emergency and needs to sell his new purchase?
This whole thing sounds almost illegal to me.

That is a very good point.

 

[carrrnuttt]

What happens to the poor guy that stretches his budget to the max to buy his dream car and then has a personal or family emergency and needs to sell his new purchase?
This whole thing sounds almost illegal to me.

For every one of those guys, there are hundreds more guys who couldn't even experience the car they dreamt of, since all the allocations were gobbled up by investor buyers.

And like 13COBRA said, hopefully there's a clause for this, or maybe allow for a dealer buyback in such situations.

 

[Papaw]

Sounds like the deck is stacked in favor of the dealers.

 

[SolarYellow]

Speaking of which, Ford reopened its 2023 Lightning orders and increased based models by $7k but don't even think about buying a certain vehicle and flipping it because the warranty goes bye bye.

 

[13COBRA]

Sounds like the deck is stacked in favor of the dealers.

I wish lol Ties the the dealers hands.