He should of been fired back when this photo was taken, disgrace to law enforcement.
Cowards of Broward County
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Just because you dont like it does not mean its not true. SEVERAL times in several different scenarios it has been deciced in a court of law (including the supreme court) that police/government aren't required to protect citizens.
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Except that legally in most of the country it is the truth....
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Actually in most jurisdictiuons when it comes to active shooters at schools the training says DO NOT WAIT find and engage the shooter to distract or neutralize the threat in order to buy time or make the situation safe for CHILDREN to escape. But that is training not legal obligation in most cases.
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You talking about guns or liberals?
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I rejoined the NRA last week. I refuse to bow down to this shit.
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Yes ur correct thats what most jurisdictions recommend. Unfortunately some departmental policies prohibit engaging an active shooter alone. Sad but true. and as far a legal obligation yea thats a tough one cause there are so many variables as to why one didn't go in and they change from one scene to another.
Not sure what Broward Counties policy is but they have refused to release their policy on that which is kinda silly cause Dept Policies are pretty easy to come by if the media wanted it.
I bet it says engage immediately but a guy with 32 years on isn't very likely to be putting his ass on the line being probably close to 60 years old. Many SRO's work in the schools cause its supposed to be a cushy job where they don't have to deal with real violence or any of the other animals the rest of the Patrol division has to deal with so I'm not surprised at all with his inactions.
Putting a badge on someone doesn't make them some Super hero and there are 10's of thousands of cops around the country that would have done exactly what he did which is NOTHING like they do every day in the Patrol Division.
The training needs to also come from the board of education teaching students and teachers to get the **** out now! 90% of killings in mass shootings actually come from ppl hiding and then being found and shot. Most mass shooting are over in under 6 minutes.
Not sure what Broward Counties policy is but they have refused to release their policy on that which is kinda silly cause Dept Policies are pretty easy to come by if the media wanted it.
I bet it says engage immediately but a guy with 32 years on isn't very likely to be putting his ass on the line being probably close to 60 years old. Many SRO's work in the schools cause its supposed to be a cushy job where they don't have to deal with real violence or any of the other animals the rest of the Patrol division has to deal with so I'm not surprised at all with his inactions.
Putting a badge on someone doesn't make them some Super hero and there are 10's of thousands of cops around the country that would have done exactly what he did which is NOTHING like they do every day in the Patrol Division.
The training needs to also come from the board of education teaching students and teachers to get the **** out now! 90% of killings in mass shootings actually come from ppl hiding and then being found and shot. Most mass shooting are over in under 6 minutes.
Says it on just about every single patrol car i have ever seen. It was also in my swearing in oath. To protect and serve.
But thats non of my business.
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Honestly, the whole thing is obviously a huge tragedy but now the blame game is moving way too fricking hard in the sheriff's department.
Blame.
Seems to be used at the most optimal time for some
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Blame.
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The blame is still on the 19 year old nut job. However, there are a lot of things that took place that shouldn't have.
One slip up in a tragic situation can be seen as an oversight or an error. This particular school shooting was full of red flags and yellow officers. It was a complete blunder.
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One slip up in a tragic situation can be seen as an oversight or an error. This particular school shooting was full of red flags and yellow officers. It was a complete blunder.
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The SC ruling is there to protect the officers. If they didn't have that then I imagine they could be vulnerable to a number of lawsuits for claims of not doing enough. You simply cant expect someone to do what you hope in a life and death situation. However, by all standards and expectations, cops are there to protect and serve. If they openly state they are not willing to do those things then they will not be a cop for very long. Just like this cop got put on leave while they investigated his inaction and cowardice. It's important to note the distinction between the two.
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The Sherif's department was the first group to place blame on guns.
Israel is DWS and Clinton's buddy. Bastard probably paid off the deputies to not enter as a means to squelch the "good guy with a gun" argument.
There was an off duty city cop there helping with field maintenance (his wife works at the school) who went in unarmed in shorts and a t-shirt. He helped get kids out and when other local cops showed up he got a sidearm from one of them and a vest and went back in.
If you truly would go running in to help I respect you for that. In my view there are a few problems with going in as a civilian:
1) You're probably not well armed.
2) You lack body armor
3) The police won't be able to tell the difference between you and the real shooter
4) The students won't be able to tell the difference either
5) The legal shit-storm coming your way afterward will destroy both your life and your family's
Whether or not I went in would depend on the situation but these are all things I think about when I slide my holster on every day. There are real ramifications for going in blind and dumb. Not going in also assumes that the police will be there quickly.....not hiding behind the dumpster for 6 minutes.
I realize the chances of these shootings happening are very slim but jesus ****ing christ why is the government refusing to allow us to protect our schools. I'd gladly patrol the school down the street for a living wage.
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