This man 07-09 GT500 prices are dropping Terminators are on the up tick. I just wonder when the bottom will fall out for the 07-09 and they start going back up.
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Dilemma: Keep the Terminator or buy a GT500?
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This man 07-09 GT500 prices are dropping Terminators are on the up tick. I just wonder when the bottom will fall out for the 07-09 and they start going back up.
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Not sure where you are getting your numbers from for the 03-04 Cobra's, but they did not make over 20,000 of them. It's actually 19,140 to be exact.
As for GT500's (found on another site):
S-197
07: 10847
08: 8583
09: 3559
Total: 22989 S-197
2010+
10: 4458
11: 5100
12: 4834
13: 4885
14: 5000(ish)
Total 24277(ish) 2010+
If you want to compare 03-04 Cobra's to GT500, then there are WAY more GT500's out there.
Keep the cobra. I would get a 13 gt500
I'll be tempted to sell my Terminator for one if so.
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I know thats what your hoping but the 13/14 will be like the 03/04 except there was way less produced. not saying they wont go down in value some, but I bet the new GT500 will be 70k plus AND if itsa TTV6 alot of people will still want the large v8 that the 13/14 offered. Stick to an 11 or 12 if you want a bargin Shelby thats almost as good as a 13/14
I'd do a gt500 all day over the terminator and I have had 4 terminators. That said I wouldn't do an 08 unless I was getting a deal and planned to flip it. Considering this is her late husbands she probably wouldn't be happy if you tried flipping it. For a 11-14 gt500 I would no issue and I would keep it. Why? lighter, newer, 13/14 is larger motor, etc. The terminators while I love them are getting old and those that do not take care of them will start seeing things fail because of age and wear. Some parts you can't even get for them anymore. Plus I like newer technology. I like all the gadgets and gizmos that come in the newer vehicles.
But in the end for the 08 I wouldn't do it unless I was flipping it to plan for a 13/14.
But in the end for the 08 I wouldn't do it unless I was flipping it to plan for a 13/14.
Ok. I was off by a few hundred. Either way, what I said still holds. There are as many '03/'04 Cobras as there are '11 thru '14 GT500s. (You posted "5000-ish" for '14. Could be more, could be less.) If you want me to compare all GT500 numbers, then you need to drag out all the SN95 Cobras; that would be '94 thru '04. There are significant changes throughout the GT500 run. Enough to not be able to lump them all into one pile.
The '03/'04 Cobra's claim to fame is the engine. So, if you want to play the engine game, the Condor ('11/'12) and Trinity ('13/'14) were both 2-year engines. The '03/'04 Cobra had twice as many produced as the '11/'12 and the '13/'14 GT500s, respectively; Terminator - 19,140, Condor - 9,934, Trinity - 9,885-ish.
I wasn't planning to make the swap but the 2013-14 cars appealed to me. I started venturing into the trinity section and it seems like north of 750rwhp you can end up with a possible motor failure especially if you shift it north of 6500rpm. A terminator can handle that, so really you're just getting a newer chassis and gadgets. Not anything that appeals to me enough to make the switch.
I tend to think of the GT500's as one group, because they all share a similar formula of a supercharged 5.4/5.8 engine. Sure, the body style changed, along with other things, but they were tweaks here and there. The 03-04 Cobra is essentially the grandfather of them, and I can see why they are often compared. I was just pointing out that there are almost twice as many variants of the GT500 with a supercharged 5.4/5.8 engine from the factory as there are 03-04 Cobra's with a supercharged 4.6 engine from the factory. But, I guess you are right. You win. Carry on.
As to the original question of this thread. I'd keep the Cobra hands down. I had the option to purchase either an 03-04 Cobra or an 07-09 GT500. I went with the 03-04 Cobra because I like the look of them more than the 07-09's. I actually don't think I could ever own that body style, just don't care for them. I am debating getting into an 11-14 GT500 in a year or two when the prices come down a little more. I'll decide to cross that bridge or not though later.
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Show me an all stock Terminator engine making 750RWHP on pump gas. Those are the conditions where the Trinity and Condor occasionally run into problems. And the problems are typically tune related. There's a handful of GT500 guys making over 800RWHP on pump gas and stock guts.
Nah him and Sirshuan just hate terminators and are pissy because they are still popular and bring in coin.
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It doesn't matter if its pump gas or e85 the rods are the problem, the fuel doesn't matter so that arguement is kind of pointless. I'd much rather run my Terminator at over 700rwhp+ with little to no fear of failure than upgrade to a trinity that has the potential for throwing a rod at over 6500 rpms or 750rwhp which is one really really really expensive rebuild.
If the Trinity had an engine capable of 900-1000rwhp in stock form I'd consider it.
I do agree with this. While I like the 13-14. With all the threads you read on here about them letting go with that HP and Rpms as well as how expensive they are to build your almost better off going for a 11-12. Unless you are wanna keep power lower. It is the rods they put in the 13-14.
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You guys should probably visit the GT500 forum more often to get the real scoop, not hearsay. You're ridiculously over-exaggerating engines letting go at 750RWHP. That's a barely even modded power level. No GT500 has thrown a rod at (or rather, because of) 750RWHP. The guys throwing rods are the ones trying to rev to (and past) 7500 RPM on the stock rods. None of us are remotely worried about our engines letting go at a paltry 700+RWHP. If you find somebody concerned about it, he's probably brand new to the GT500 and spent too much time in the '03/'04 Cobra section. I mean, come on. You're worried about throwing a rod in a Trinity while revving the engine way out past what it was designed for, but you're not worried about melting pistons on WOT pulls in a Terminator? Come on.
From what I've read I wouldn't want to push a trinity motor past 700RWHP without at least running E85 and keeping the revs below 6,300 rpm. Fact of the matter is Ford skimped out on the rods they used in those motors. For the terminator no I don't got WOT IN 5th or 6th. Hell I've never winded 4th all the way out in mine since I've owned it.
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I know that's a shot at this crowd, but you have to admit..... That's funny right there LOL.
Yeah. For a while, you could find good '03/'04 Cobras down in the teens. Then somewhere, somehow insanity ensued and the prices went up into the 20s. Somebody either here or on Craig's list was trying to sell one for $28K!!That's getting too close to '07 GT500 money.
I would absolutley stand firm trying to get $28K for mine. I'm confident I could eventually get it too if I ever decided to sell. Black 04 Just X-Pipe/Catback with intake. 6,800 miles. With that being said, I'm looking at Raptors right now and people are STILL looking to get high $40Ks for 2011s with 80-100k on them...lol
Depends on how badly the buyer wants it I suppose...
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