Intercooler pump again

[Federico Garza]

Found a pdf on the technical specs of the "newer" Bosch pump. According to Bosch, the revised pump flows 1400 dm3/h (1400 cubic decimeters per hour) which translates to 6.16 gallons / min.

Seems like it flows 2 gallons per minute more than what other members have quoted for the first generation pump. If this is true, it equals the 2013 pump, and could be a PnP upgrade???

Very interesting, thanks for looking that up, it seems you would end with the same problems as the pierburg pump since the flow is increased... needing the bypass hose arrangement.

Now if it were a brushless pump also, it might be worthwile to put this one in and fab up a bypass hose....

 

[Federico Garza]

Its possible, but its unclear if this pump is a brushless motor design. The Trinity Peirberg unit is a brushless design and should outlast a brushed design by a wide margin. I priced out a trinity pump (Peirberg) and its about $275 shipped to my door along with $5 for the adapter harness.

Id say its probably a better investment to get the Trinity pump than an old style pump, even if the flow rate is similar. The factory pup is right around $200 at one of our site vendors. I imagine the newer upgraded pump is probably at least 20-30 more. For about $275 Id rather just have the trinity pump.

I saw the updated bosch pumps on ebay for $100....

 

[Federico Garza]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Bosch-A...ash=item235ffab3cc:g:HqgAAOSwYIhWhO84&vxp=mtr

 

[Robert M]

lexustech48,
Checkout this pump kit.

FORD RACING 2013-2014 SHELBY MUSTANG GT500 INTERCOOLER WATER PUMP M-8501-M58

I am still fuming about Photobucket locking my account for picture sharing unless I pay them $40 per month or $400 per year to post pictures on forums.

But anyway..................I see the pump, the 2-pc. bracket and the short pigtail harness, if a 2007-2012 owner chooses to install that pump in the oem 2013/14 location, it will require the replacement of two of the original timing cover bolts with stud/bolts that are used for two the three pump bracket attachments. I did not find the stud/bolts or their correct nuts listed in the oem Ford 5.8 DOHC parts breakdown. Finding those took a little more digging.

^^^^^^I have pictures of all of this also...........

*****I just looked at that FRPP pump kit again. The 2-pc bracket is only what holds the pump itself, there is another (third) bracket that attaches to the timing cover and is required for oem 2013/14 placement. That bracket does not appear to be with that FRPP kit. This third bracket is what attaches with those stud headed bolts and nuts along with a third bolt.


R

 

[Snoopy49]

I am still fuming about Photobucket locking my account for picture sharing unless I pay them $40 per month or $400 per year to post pictures on forums.
R

This really sucks, the only thing they are good for is storing your files. The next step will probably lock you out completely unless you pay the ransom.

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[HillbillyHotRod]

Well the genuinely sucks.

This really sucks, the only thing they are good for is storing your files. The next step will probably lock you out completely unless you pay the ransom.

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[Robert M]

Bosch 0392022010 Engine Auxiliary Water Pump

I know this is an older thread, but has anyone upgraded their 2007-2012 GT500 I/C pump to this Bosch that we discussed a couple of years ago? and if so how is doing and was a it a plug and play install on a 2007-2012 in the oem location?

I see that my pictures are still on the first page of this thread showing the 2013/14 GT500 I/C pump install on a 2007-2012 in the oem 2013/14 location......

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[PM-Performance]

I know this is an older thread, but has anyone upgraded their 2007-2012 GT500 I/C pump to this Bosch that we discussed a couple of years ago? and if so how is doing and was a it a plug and play install on a 2007-2012 in the oem location?

I see that my pictures are still on the first page of this thread showing the 2013/14 GT500 I/C pump install on a 2007-2012 in the oem 2013/14 location......

R

I did the Davies Craig Ebp-25 which is higher flow and better motor and less money,
Direct fit!

 

[Robert M]

I did the Davies Craig Ebp-25 which is higher flow and better motor and less money,
Direct fit!

Is that motor brushless also?

R

 

[PM-Performance]

Is that motor brushless also?

R

Yes, this is a brushless motor, direct fit, more gpm, and was like $120 shipped.
I cannot say there really was any difference in delta of IAT's out of boost, but underhood temps are stupid because of my longtubes and just trapping hot air in there. But I watched some runs at WOT and did not seem to get as high as previous and seemed to recover faster from the couple times I watched it.

 

[Robert M]

Yes, this is a brushless motor, direct fit, more gpm, and was like $120 shipped.
I cannot say there really was any difference in delta of IAT's out of boost, but underhood temps are stupid because of my longtubes and just trapping hot air in there. But I watched some runs at WOT and did not seem to get as high as previous and seemed to recover faster from the couple times I watched it.

^^^^^I may go that way, but I do have the 2013/14 pump installed on my car as I showed on the first page of this thread, it is in place and my hyd. P/S mod has worked fine for a few years now since I mounted that 2013/14 pump........I just haven't made time to cut over to it yet. I was kind of thinking I would upgrade my original 2008 pump in the meantime.

BTW - If anyone has a 2007-2012 I/C pump bracket for sale, I am looking for one.

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[PM-Performance]

Gotcha, I didn’t read the whole thread since it was a couple years old

 

[Robert M]

Gotcha, I didn’t read the whole thread since it was a couple years old

How easy was it to move the oem rubber mount to the new pump?

...........or how hard was it to get the rubber bracket off of the old/original pump?

R

 

[PM-Performance]

How easy was it to move the oem rubber mount to the new pump?

...........or how hard was it to get the rubber bracket off of the old/original pump?

R

did you watch the video? It’s pretty detailed. That’s why I linked it.

 

[Robert M]

did you watch the video? It’s pretty detailed. That’s why I linked it.

I started it and then someone called me.

 

[Robert M]

Ok, I picked up where I left off, good video. I did not see it mentioned, but the two nuts are not accessible to remove the pump bracket from the H/E while everything is in place? and........had someone been there before? I saw the screw/worm hose clamps instead of the pinch type clamps that are used everywhere else in that system from Ford.

R

 

[PM-Performance]

Ok, I picked up where I left off, good video. I did not see it mentioned, but the two nuts are not accessible to remove the pump bracket from the H/E while everything is in place? and........had someone been there before? I saw the screw/worm hose clamps instead of the pinch type clamps that are used everywhere else in that system from Ford.

I didn’t need to remove the bracket. But yes I could have gotten it off if I wanted.
I think it was 2x 10mm nuts holding the bracket In
R

 

[SCGallo2]

I did the Davies Craig Ebp-25 which is higher flow and better motor and less money, Direct fit!

Thanks for providing another replacement option.