Is a '93 cobra trans worth any more than a typical T5?
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FWIW, I just sold the T5 for $500 locally.
It did have a steel bearing retainer on it, however it seems that trans has been apart at one point, so I can't verify that it was steel from the factory.
The trans tag read "F3ZR-7003-AA".
It did have a steel bearing retainer on it, however it seems that trans has been apart at one point, so I can't verify that it was steel from the factory.
The trans tag read "F3ZR-7003-AA".
19Cobra93. The statement that 'twisted' put up was where I got my info that the same tranny was put in all V-8 fox mustangs by mid year.
Also the 93 Cobra did NOT come with a steel retainer. That was one of my first upgrades to my car 8 years ago. your info was the first I heard of 94-95 cobras coming with a steel retainer from OEM.
Also the 93 Cobra did NOT come with a steel retainer. That was one of my first upgrades to my car 8 years ago. your info was the first I heard of 94-95 cobras coming with a steel retainer from OEM.
Somebody should probably tell this guy so he can edit his information, if that's in fact true...LEE93COBRA said:
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247242
19COBRA93 said:
Bringing this back up for a couple of reasons...I just pulled the T-5 out of my Cobra tonight to replace the TOB. What I found was not a bad TOB, but a galled and worn shaft on the bearing retainer. I am not going to start a war and state the F3ZR trans didn't come with a steel retainer, but the one I just took of mine is NOT. I am not the original owner, so I couldn't say for sure that it wasn't replaced. Although why someone would replace a steel one with an aluminum one is beyond me.
The second question is this: I have ordered the FMS steel bearing retainer, this will work on our Cobra transmissions right? I ask because I am not sure if there would be a difference due to ours having the tapered roller bearing vs the needle bearing. It appears the race will still fit in the same place.
yes it will work :thumbsup:fromme said:
Yes, it will work.
Also, despite some info on the internet, I think we've determined the '93 cobra trans did NOT have the steel bearing retainer as previously thought.
Also, despite some info on the internet, I think we've determined the '93 cobra trans did NOT have the steel bearing retainer as previously thought.
19COBRA93 said:
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It's hard to tell what people find value in, but pretty much any '93 cobra specific part, people eat right up.
Yes, I'd say the '93 cobra trans is more valuable than a typical T5. Whether it's to someone putting a '93 back together, or someone just needing another trans to replace a broken one.
Yes, I'd say the '93 cobra trans is more valuable than a typical T5. Whether it's to someone putting a '93 back together, or someone just needing another trans to replace a broken one.
I believe another unique feature was the reverse syncro. I have only seen this feature on the Cobra trans I have had apart. I know that the 94 Cobra T5had a steel retainer and pocket bearing, not sure about the 93. Several unique parts.
The Cobra trans is basically a T5Z with a wide ratio gearset....
Strangely enough, Tremec rates the newer V6 T5's as 300+ ft/lb. I used a T5 from a 99 v6 behind a 351w. I redrilled the flywheel and bolted it right up bell housing and all.(Bonus:99 V6 has an 11in clutch).
The Cobra trans is basically a T5Z with a wide ratio gearset....
Strangely enough, Tremec rates the newer V6 T5's as 300+ ft/lb. I used a T5 from a 99 v6 behind a 351w. I redrilled the flywheel and bolted it right up bell housing and all.(Bonus:99 V6 has an 11in clutch).
Yes, the '93 cobra trans is similar to the T5Z, but still not the same.gboger said:
The '96 and up V6 T5 is basically the same thing as the '94-95 GT Trans. Same HP rating and input shaft and probably most everything else.
You bolted a V6 bellhousing to a 351 windsor? I'd like to know how you accomplished that.
fromme said:
Flame suit on....
HA Ha, Really got me there dude :bash:
By the way, how many T5's have you taken apart. Or do you just grind them up and let other people fix them for you...
Seems like some of these "People in the know" don't know as much as they think!! I have no problem being schooled when I am wrong. :read:
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19COBRA93 said:
3.8, 5.0, & 5.8 = Same bellhousing bolt pattern
Auto trans is same also.
3.8 Flywheel(99) has same bolt pattern but is smaller metric size, don't know when this changed, used to be the same (early 90's). I have also used 3.8 auto trans for 5.0, works fine in a pinch.
I didn't say the Cobra trans was exactly the same as T5Z, dang close to it. I have a T5z sitting in my garage right now. I did have a 94 Cobra T5 until recently, so I got to do a pretty good side by side comparison.
I will agree with that. The only difference in the cobra tranny's and t-5z's is the gear ratio and the bearing retainer.gboger said:
I also agree with the unique reverse synchro. That was something we noticed on my OEM tranny rebuild and my t-5z. Other 5.0 tranny's did not have that.
Damn I thought this had died.
Just an FYI gbooger many people on this board and this thread for that matter have rebuilt T5 trannys. We have broken them, bought them, replaced them, and upgraded them internally. And I believe 19Cobra93 is a dealer of them.
Just an FYI gbooger many people on this board and this thread for that matter have rebuilt T5 trannys. We have broken them, bought them, replaced them, and upgraded them internally. And I believe 19Cobra93 is a dealer of them.
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twisted89GT said:
I think I could do it in my sleep now. Very handy knowledge when you break them as much as I do.
One of these days I am going to get a tranny that can hold up to my abuse. 3rd gear hates me
LEE93COBRA said:I think I could do it in my sleep now. Very handy knowledge when you break them as much as I do.
One of these days I am going to get a tranny that can hold up to my abuse. 3rd gear hates me
My pro-Motion built T5 went 11.07 and still lives. Gforce builds a damn sturdy box also.
Thanks guys! I've learned quite a bit from reading all this. So correct me if I'm wrong:
1) All fox T5's are interchangeable. I can use a '91 5.0 T5 in my '93 Cobra if I want with no misc parts, and vice versa, correct?
2) 94+ V8 T5's (and '96+ V6 T5's) can be used in a fox 5.0 with an input shaft swap (not sure if that's easy to do or not).
1) All fox T5's are interchangeable. I can use a '91 5.0 T5 in my '93 Cobra if I want with no misc parts, and vice versa, correct?
2) 94+ V8 T5's (and '96+ V6 T5's) can be used in a fox 5.0 with an input shaft swap (not sure if that's easy to do or not).
yes to both questions.
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