Just do not like the body style.!
Is This The Biggest Cobra Dispute Since The Beginning Of SVT? (GT500 VS 03s)
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history repeats it's self, i would say that the same was talked about in the 60's reguarding the 66 Shelby GT-350 and the new style 67-68 GT-500, bigger platform, engine, how many of us would take one of these, if you had the chance.
I don't like how they look is my main problem with them... they look huge and bulk. Second I think many are thinking of jumping with high hopes this car is going to be insanely fast since it has a 5.4L. I think a lot of people just need to sit and think they have a pretty solid platform with an 03-04 cobra and could upgrade some things and make it better then the GT-500. My 04 is staying with me and will get turbos down the road. My next addition would have to be a 02-04 Z06 or maybe a C6 and if long enough down the road then maybe a C6 Z06(but that car is selling for around $105K-110K cdn locally... too much money for what I could build a C5 Z into for 20-30K less)
i can concede that they are a better factory mustang, and will step down from the top of the mustang hill :thumbsup:
if i could afford a new car every couple years i would consider it (even tho the no spare tire deal would deter me)
the only negative i can think of about these cars is, (and it goes for all of the new s197 platform) the car seems alot bigger than the sn95, which was in turn bigger than the fox body. their bodywork is just getting too big for my liking
if i could afford a new car every couple years i would consider it (even tho the no spare tire deal would deter me)
the only negative i can think of about these cars is, (and it goes for all of the new s197 platform) the car seems alot bigger than the sn95, which was in turn bigger than the fox body. their bodywork is just getting too big for my liking
dgussin1 said:
Hey, we can afford the new Shelby, but us true Cobra owners don't jump on the band wagon as soon as an expensive bigger and uglier Shelby comes around.
I think the 03/04 GT500 hating peeps have it all wrong. I'm all about Ford producing another awesome performance Cobra. Back in the day, rewind back to July-September 02, we were all going crazy over how the 03 was looking and performing as they started hitting the streets. We did moan and groan about the weight. But what we (SVTP) was really whinning about was the IRS and how if only Ford had put in a SRA, we would have the car we wanted. Well, they did it, with a bigger engine, better drivetrain. Now we're back to the weight issue again. It didn't seem to stop us before since the 03/04 Cobras are some of the fastest things on the streets and at the strip. So the conclusion is, some of you bubba's just can't be pleased. I may or may not buy a GT500. I will have to get some priorities in order, but definately possible. I am first on a list to buy at MSRP, if the dealer decides at some point to sell them at that price. A fully loaded Ebony with stripe delete would not upset me sitting in my garage. This banter will die, as it did before...........
I can afford one, just don't like the styling and the weight. I'll keep my '03
I like it better than the 03, I just can't justify dropping the cash right now, maybe a left over 07 or an 08... :shrug:
On paper it's superior, who knows for sure yet...
I think it looks much cooler, the interior is far superior, pretty much just a way nicer car.
On paper it's superior, who knows for sure yet...
I think it looks much cooler, the interior is far superior, pretty much just a way nicer car.
Well personally Im a "hater" now because the way ford changed much of what I loved about the concept. I was on the list to get one, yet have grown to dislike the looks and specs of the gt500. I HATE the hood, dont like the weight, and wish they would have put the twinscrew on it. The price is also an issue since a vert will be atleast 50+k now, and that will be sightly less than say a used c6z06 by next year. There is also some good cars in the pipeline (camero, challenger) that im waiting to see the specs on. Just disappointed in ford more than anything.
jason
jason
If the Shelby is 7500 Build and made only 1 yr it will be a collectable..If Ford makes 10,000 a year for 2 years it won't be special..There are other cars comming out to compete with it...Challenger and Comaro to name 2...
I'd wait,,I would feel cheated to pay a big markup and then seeing them sell at a Discount..
I'd wait,,I would feel cheated to pay a big markup and then seeing them sell at a Discount..
According to what I've read Ford will make plenty of 500's for the next 5 years. Wait a couple of years (like I did with my 03), and pick one up for far less than MSRP, then mod, and beat on it like its stolen!
As far as which is better, everyone know technology moves ahead, in many ways it is a better car, but I HATE THE FREAKIN WEIGHT, 3900# dry????? Other than that looks are really the only point you can argue about. I love my 03, but lets be honest there are a number of improvements in the 500.
The only remaining unknown is modding. If you look closely at the blower, you'll see that you really can't put much of a smaller pulley on it, I read that the crank pulley is similarly limited going larger, so you may not get much more boost out of it, so we'll see if they're as mod friendly as the 03-04. And really I picked up a Cobra and sold my Mach, because I got tired of spending $100/HP instead of about $10/HP for the Cobra. But to each his own. One thing I will say is if new 500 owners think they can just beat any 03 out of the box, they've got some surprises waiting for them!
As far as which is better, everyone know technology moves ahead, in many ways it is a better car, but I HATE THE FREAKIN WEIGHT, 3900# dry????? Other than that looks are really the only point you can argue about. I love my 03, but lets be honest there are a number of improvements in the 500.
The only remaining unknown is modding. If you look closely at the blower, you'll see that you really can't put much of a smaller pulley on it, I read that the crank pulley is similarly limited going larger, so you may not get much more boost out of it, so we'll see if they're as mod friendly as the 03-04. And really I picked up a Cobra and sold my Mach, because I got tired of spending $100/HP instead of about $10/HP for the Cobra. But to each his own. One thing I will say is if new 500 owners think they can just beat any 03 out of the box, they've got some surprises waiting for them!
The GT500 is a better car overall period than the 03'-04' except a major seller for me, styling! Now drop it, put some nice wheels on it and do something with those big ass expedition mirrors and you might have something. Imo, they should have tried to keep alot of the concept cars styling into the new platform.
BelvedereGTX
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gt500 looks like the 05+ mustang. CRAP
I've got on 04 terminator, and I think both the 03,04 cobra's and the new shelby's are both insane. I WANT BOTH!!
I have owned many Mustangs. I like them because, unlike the f-body, they remained a "pony car". Having said that, the numbers for the Shelby GT500 are impressive. I like the motor, but that is where it stops for me.
For one, the retro thing is getting old.......secondly, it is FAR from a "pony car". It is massive, heavy, big and needs a major diet all around.
I can afford one - not a problem, even with a jacked up retail - but I am fond of the 03/04 styling.
I am hoping the next Mustang will carry the SVT logo and be a worthy successor, not just FORD cashing in on Shelby's name sake.
For one, the retro thing is getting old.......secondly, it is FAR from a "pony car". It is massive, heavy, big and needs a major diet all around.
I can afford one - not a problem, even with a jacked up retail - but I am fond of the 03/04 styling.
I am hoping the next Mustang will carry the SVT logo and be a worthy successor, not just FORD cashing in on Shelby's name sake.
Here's something to chew on. I'm getting tired of retro, too. But for the auto designers it might be easier IMO to design a retro Mustang/Camaro/Challenger than to design something new and fresh.Mad Max said:
And interesting you mention the "pony car" thing. These "pony cars" are fast becoming Clydesdales. LOL!
2thman said:
Jim Vaccaro said:
I gotta be honest, I am just stunned at how many people can't spell CAMARO!!!!!!!
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Did you mean Kamero.............
As for retro - Challenger looks cool, Camaro is too boxy. We will see what ends up under the hood!
As for retro - Challenger looks cool, Camaro is too boxy. We will see what ends up under the hood!
Truth Be Told
Back in the day, (40 years ago), the Shelby 500 was the only car I dreamed about.
The 350 was like getting the ugly girlfriend but was better than nothing and got you close to the re4al deal.
The new 07 Shelby 500 is now the ugly girlfriend to my 04 Cobra mystic vert and I wish it wasn't.
I would, could but won't trade.
Back in the day, (40 years ago), the Shelby 500 was the only car I dreamed about.
The 350 was like getting the ugly girlfriend but was better than nothing and got you close to the re4al deal.
The new 07 Shelby 500 is now the ugly girlfriend to my 04 Cobra mystic vert and I wish it wasn't.
I would, could but won't trade.
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