V8 or no go for me. I respect Ecoboost tech, but I'd never buy a non-V8 Mustang.If it is a twin turbo V6, no matter how impressive, it just means Z06 for sure.
-J
V8 or no go for me. I respect Ecoboost tech, but I'd never buy a non-V8 Mustang.If it is a twin turbo V6, no matter how impressive, it just means Z06 for sure.
Last of the V8 interceptors....
I think it's this
There's some interesting guesses in here. I have a feeling that the car will sell very well, but I also think it will strengthen the market for some of the older SVTs.
Just give us a massively better looking car than any of the other horrid looking S550s to date, shoehorn a big V8 into it, slap a TVS on it, and shove some giant ass rubber under its ass for the first time in mustang history - why do we have these freaking bicycle tires on a nearly 700 hp car anyway!?! Make this car and Ill be happy. But building these Euro-douche looking turbo cars just isnt my style, and frankly should never have been the style for any mustang ever.
A lot of us want a twin turbo set-up for the next GT500.
The former Ford engineer ('BMacIL' on another board) responded to TT rumors in several different posts over the last 2 years or so.
I quoted him directly below.
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"Good luck trying to fit a TT V6 in the S550. It takes up more room in the F-150 than the 5.0. It'll require significant retooling for the 7th gen to put in, in order to meet package requirements."
"A parallel turbo setup does not require two heat exchangers, you simply need two inlets and one outlet. The EB V6 engines are setup exactly like this.
Go try measuring the space between the header inlet flange and the closest hard points. You're not fitting a manifold, turbo and piping in there and still meeting minimum package requirements for engine roll (particularly for very hot components...their minimums are higher). It's not a fair comparison with Ford doing the voodoo, as that takes up the same package space as the coyote. The challenge of combating the significant shaking forces is a good one, but simply requires a lot of development time. They're not doing new front-end sheet metal and structure to package this kind of stuff...simply too expensive. Doing new fenders and hood for the GT350 is easy. Those have little impact on crash test results and are relatively cheap as far as tooling is concerned."
"The only way they could do it would be to drastically change the engine architecture and go to a V-nested single, twin-scroll turbo ala M5/M6. They'd probably have to go dry sump to get it to package under the hood (or just put a big dent in the hood!"
"Hot V would've required a new dash/engine tunnel. It would also mean all new heads and would require a dual airbox & throttle body inlet design. Too much change to commonize with the rest of S550 assembly."
A lot of us want a twin turbo set-up for the next GT500.
The former Ford engineer ('BMacIL' on another board) responded to TT rumors in several different posts over the last 2 years or so.
I quoted him directly below.
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"Good luck trying to fit a TT V6 in the S550. It takes up more room in the F-150 than the 5.0. It'll require significant retooling for the 7th gen to put in, in order to meet package requirements."
"A parallel turbo setup does not require two heat exchangers, you simply need two inlets and one outlet. The EB V6 engines are setup exactly like this.
Go try measuring the space between the header inlet flange and the closest hard points. You're not fitting a manifold, turbo and piping in there and still meeting minimum package requirements for engine roll (particularly for very hot components...their minimums are higher). It's not a fair comparison with Ford doing the voodoo, as that takes up the same package space as the coyote. The challenge of combating the significant shaking forces is a good one, but simply requires a lot of development time. They're not doing new front-end sheet metal and structure to package this kind of stuff...simply too expensive. Doing new fenders and hood for the GT350 is easy. Those have little impact on crash test results and are relatively cheap as far as tooling is concerned."
"The only way they could do it would be to drastically change the engine architecture and go to a V-nested single, twin-scroll turbo ala M5/M6. They'd probably have to go dry sump to get it to package under the hood (or just put a big dent in the hood!"
"Hot V would've required a new dash/engine tunnel. It would also mean all new heads and would require a dual airbox & throttle body inlet design. Too much change to commonize with the rest of S550 assembly."
Just give us a massively better looking car than any of the other horrid looking S550s to date, shoehorn a big V8 into it, slap a TVS on it, and shove some giant ass rubber under its ass for the first time in mustang history - why do we have these freaking bicycle tires on a nearly 700 hp car anyway!?! Make this car and Ill be happy. But building these Euro-douche looking turbo cars just isnt my style, and frankly should never have been the style for any mustang ever.
He also said it has the DCT out of the GT.
No. Was the engineer who stated this called the pill?
Hot v setup sounded like the pill talking.
Especially on a GT500!!V8 or no go for me. I respect Ecoboost tech, but I'd never buy a non-V8 Mustang.
-J
How do you come to the conclusion of. 4.8tt? And a 5.0 with a blower? Everyone else thinks 5.2 with tvs. Do you know someone.....?Next GT500 won't have V6 for sure . it will either have 4.8TT or 5.0 with TVS supercharger . That's what these test mules had been running . Now it's just a waiting game