New Dodge Camaro Dark horse 25k ADMs

[5.0 Hatch]

The first time I ever seen it was on a 07 GT500. It sat for over a year in my local dealership. I have no idea what it ended up selling for.

 

[Detroit Iron]

The prices of these new cars are completely out of control. For 2024, the cheapest V8 Mustang you can buy will sticker at 43K. WTF. This is really sad for those of us who enjoyed new 10K Mustang 5.0 LXs. This is likely another reason the hobby is dying. With these prices, I really don't feel bad throwing some money into my 92 coupe.

Somebody asked about 93 Cobras and ADMs. For us older guys who remember, 93 Cobras were sitting on lots and had a hard time selling. The shiny new SN95 was right around the corner and the fox body was old news. My local dealer had five of them sitting for months in the back of the lot.

 

[4rd Toys]

For me,

I was introduced to ADMs in the 1990s out on O'ahu [Hawaii].

It was across the board with every new make & model of car/truck ranging from $2,500 to $5K.... You name it... Ford/Chevy/VW/Nissan/Honda dealerships had that slip next to the window sticker.

They called it "Paradise-Tax".

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For me though I was able to get A/Z-Plan pricing on every Ford vehicle I or we purchased...
Except for the Focus RS... which I paid Invoice on with zero markup... when everyone else wanted 5 to 10K markups back in 2016/17.

I remember finding or stumbling onto deals "back-n-da-day".... and I couldn't say "no" to:

'03 Cobra: A/Z plan price PLUS $3000 Rebate & $2000 bonus trade-in
'04 SVTF: A/Z plan price PLUS $4250 Rebates
'12 GT500: A/Z plan price PLUS $2400 bonus trade-in
'01 SVTL: A/Z plan price [At a time when the new Silver color first arrived was marked up 5-10K]
'19 Ranger: A/Z plan price PLUS $7480 Rebates [Black-Friday Special aka $10K OFF Sticker]
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The way the current market is... probably gonna be awhile before deals start "jumping" at me again...

 

[snakedoctor]

The prices of these new cars are completely out of control. For 2024, the cheapest V8 Mustang you can buy will sticker at 43K. WTF. This is really sad for those of us who enjoyed new 10K Mustang 5.0 LXs. This is likely another reason the hobby is dying. With these prices, I really don't feel bad throwing some money into my 92 coupe.

Somebody asked about 93 Cobras and ADMs. For us older guys who remember, 93 Cobras were sitting on lots and had a hard time selling. The shiny new SN95 was right around the corner and the fox body was old news. My local dealer had five of them sitting for months in the back of the lot.

My 04 cobra stickered for $37k…they were sitting on lots because the new body style had come out. I bought mine new for $29k out the door

 

[Klaus]

But when they over produced Hellcats before covid, man, there were some deals to be had. Even before covid, Mustang numbers and availability was sketchy, much worse now.

When I bought mine you could lease one for 400 a month. No wonder most of them are beat to shit.

 

[BrunotheBoxer]

The fook is a dark horse?

Never paid an adm. Will never pay an adm.

I make it a habit to not give away free money to the iniquitous.

I’d rather drive a Toyota or walk. Srs.

 

[PhoenixM3]

The fook is a dark horse?

Never paid an adm. Will never pay an adm.

I make it a habit to not give away free money to the iniquitous.

I’d rather drive a Toyota or walk. Srs.

I walk, drive a Toyota, but also don't pay over sticker.

 

[BrunotheBoxer]

I walk, drive a Toyota, but also don't pay over sticker.

Srsly thinking my next car will be a Lexus sedan.
Go ahead and bash me. I can take it. Leather skin from the hot Florida sun.

 

[derklug]

First ADM I ever saw was in the early 90's on an RX-7. It was a dealer trade from Chicago. For a GT350 I refused to pay over and then the guy that listed the cars on the website made a mistake and posted a GT350 for MSRP. I printed off the page, drove over to Frankenmuth and bought it for list.

 

[Tezz500]

Not a fan of dark horse…. With that said, as much as mark ups suck, ultimately, it is supply and demand….. the market is supporting it, peepo are paying it…. Mark ups would not exist if it wasnt for the peepo… it is what it is at this point.

****ing hell I hate when I agree with you. It feels like kissing your sister…

 

[Dirks9901]

Some/many dealers DID add an ADM to the early 2003 Cobra stickers. I know for a fact that in late 2002, most Ford dealers in CT were marking the 2003 Cobra up by $3K to $5K. I was in the market then for a 2003 Cobra and after searching the state finally found a small Ford dealership in northern CT that was selling them at MSRP. I gladly drove 50 minutes to deal with that dealership.

Interesting. There were tons of dealers selling bellow sticker and there were rebates at some point. Of course this was much later in the production run.


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[Dirks9901]

I don’t understand the hype around the Dark Horse. The name absolutely sucks. Thanks genz for the input on that one. In terms of the overall package. Meh at best.

Just LMAO if you pay an admin for that car.


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[Klaus]

I don’t understand the hype around the Dark Horse. The name absolutely sucks. Thanks genz for the input on that one. In terms of the overall package. Meh at best.

Just LMAO if you pay an admin for that car.


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A bit of a headscratcher that it is not a Boss.

 

[PhoenixM3]

Srsly thinking my next car will be a Lexus sedan.
Go ahead and bash me. I can take it. Leather skin from the hot Florida sun.

A GR86 is a small affordable (semi) sports car. It's a blast

 

[gimmie11s]

Ive never paid over sticker.. shit -- Ive actually never paid sticker. But I don't go chasing the latest "it" car in the Ford lineup either. I usually wait a while for things to die down to try and grab a deal.

I know, boring.

 

[Dirks9901]

Ive never paid over sticker.. shit -- Ive actually never paid sticker. But I don't go chasing the latest "it" car in the Ford lineup either. I usually wait a while for things to die down to try and grab a deal.

I know, boring.

Nope, its using your brain. I still lol at all the admins people paid for 07 GT500’s.


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[robvas]

I walk, drive a Toyota, but also don't pay over sticker.

Bought a Honda this year, paid MSRP, waited 4 months. Felt like a bitch!

 

[robvas]

I don’t understand the hype around the Dark Horse.

Just wait until all the cool kids are standing around a parking lot, using their keyfob or Ford app to rev their S650's!

 

[BlueSnake01]

Not surprised coming from Galpin Ford. One of the worst dealers to make a "deal" with. They'll defend the ADM's with pride.

Havent been car shopping myself inside that place since my brother bought his 2003 Cobra new at the time, surprisingly at MSRP

 

[ZYBORG]

****ing hell I hate when I agree with you. It feels like kissing your sister…

You just outed how much you enjoy kissing your sister…. sibling ****er!